<p>actually i love women</p>
<p>every part of them, you could say i’m an equal opportunity employer.</p>
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<p>Do you know what a dead thread even is?</p>
<p>And if by “torn to pieces” you really mean ignored and then diverted the attention to some complaining, then yes. His points are pretty much what I was saying. I’d like to see you come up with some argument against it.</p>
<p>i was gone for a couple a days and this thread blew up to 33 pages!</p>
<p>I like cooking and rugby. I’m confused as to whether I’m conforming to a gender role or not.</p>
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If you love 'em so much, then stop oppressing 'em! >:[</p>
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Sounds like a failed goth band.</p>
<p>Darko21, every post that I, Leah, Stargazer, and LogicWarrior have written combats the points they made.</p>
<p>There’s no reason to bring them back up. If that poster chooses to look, they can. But I’m not in the mood for arguing or fighting, especially now that I’ve gotten away from it.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, you still feel the need to be rude. But, oh well.</p>
<p>And I meant that the original thread topic may have been dead. And I don’t know why you’re acting like you’re such a genius at Georgia Tech.</p>
<p>That’s right…I saw your school, buddy!</p>
<p>AND, that poster’s points are well-written. Maybe the reason why most of yours were ignored is because you could not seem to incorporate any logic into most of them. </p>
<p>As soon as I offered my opinion, you acted as though I ignored yours. Just sayin’</p>
<p>ok i officially have a stalker</p>
<p>Wow…no. I just wanted to see if you were a ■■■■■, because you were actually THAT immature and insulting. </p>
<p>I also I have a couple of friends going to GA Tech, so I’ve been on the boards before.</p>
<p>oh ok. riiiiiiiiggght</p>
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I would guess that you barely have any male co-workers, for a waitress the most important aspect is to look good in front of the customers and both men and women thinks that women looks better than men.</p>
<p>Most of the time the ads with scantly clad women are not directed towards men but women! The reason we have more of them is because scantly clad women makes both men and women more interested in the product, while scantly clad men do not effect any of them much.</p>
<p>Therefore male models are discriminated for their sex, female appearance is valued much higher than male appearance.</p>
<p>Edit: As for the discussion as a whole, life expectancy is the strongest statistic when it comes to evaluating peoples quality of life. Doesn’t matter if “It was the males who chose their way of life themselves!”, because as the feminists in this thread already pointed out it is the society which forces those ideals on the people and as of now you are trying to make it force them on women too, because that is what equality means. </p>
<p>Equality do not mean that women got to choose if they want to be like men or not and men don’t, since in any such scenario you will still get more men at the manly positions than women simply because men don’t have the choice. So, the only way to solve this is to start expecting exactly the same things of women as of men, the next time you see a girl crying start laughing at her, it is for her own best after all!</p>
<p>When you look at "men’s " magazies you see nice looking women.</p>
<p>When you look at “women’s” magaines you see nice looking women.</p>
<p>Giving equal value to different gender roles is not the same as making gender roles equivalent. Our society degrades and “runs down” the traditional and necessary role of primary caregiver to children. </p>
<p>A successful male can discard the female who bore his children and helped him succeed in life with little or no professional repercussions. In fact ,at the highest levels, not having a hot young “trophy wife” is a negative. </p>
<p>I feel this is morally wrong but in an evolutionary, biological context this is perfectly reaonable. If all we are is our genes, then any action that preserves and replicates them is justifiable.</p>
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Interesting, I have never seen or heard anything like that, where did you get it from?</p>
<p>But, you can’t get much higher than a president and I do not think that any of them have had a hot young trophy wife, if it was an advantage you would have seen them quite often.</p>
<p>^ Well that’s cause the President has to be elected, if he’s a 60 year old man married to some hot young 20-something bimbo, people will talk and call him shallow. Generally the First Lady has to be a respectable woman involved in all sorts of charities and stuff and who can speak reasonably about economics/politics/policy. but having a hot young trophy wife is considered a “perk” of being a wealthy man, but I don’t think it’s a big deal.</p>
<p>Klock,</p>
<p>You ae laboring under the assumption that the President is actually in charge of things.</p>
<p>He, or someday she, is just a figuehead. The real decision makers are elsewhere.</p>
<p>President O. has become a liberal warmonger despite his campaign promises.</p>
<p>Former President W. was a fiscal conservative as Govenor of Texas. Look at the policies he implemented as President.</p>
<p>^ What does that have to do with anything? Why are you dragging politics and policies into this? It’s irrelevant, the point is the President is an important person, it’s the highest office in the land. Who cares if he’s a figurehead? But I get why the Pres doesn’t have a hot young wife. I don’t know any CEO’s, but I think you’re exaggerating about it being an embarrassment to not have a young trophy wife.</p>
<p>It has to do with whoever said that men in power oppresses women. Just because a woman cannot be president doesn’t mean that all women are oppressed. And just because a man is in power doesn’t mean all women or any woman is oppressed.</p>
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<p>Oppression comes from abuse of power, so are you saying that no man ever abuses his power, or coerces a female co-worker, or anything like that?</p>
<p>Because you’re wrong.</p>
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<p>From a person named logicwarrior, I would expect you to know that power does not imply abuse of power, and even if it did, not specifically the abuse of women. Seriously can you guys come up with any better argument?</p>