Heart breaking…my heart is heavy.
I wish they would stop posting pictures of the murderer. The pictures of him they are showing make him look too normal. No normal person kills 50+ people they have zero connection to. No normal person kills 50 + people, period.
At first because a nightclub was the target, I was reminded of Paris. Now hearing more about the perp, it is more like San Bernadino.
maybe you should make a list of countries that you would identify as having “Christian” values and a list of countries that have “Islamic” values and see how they compare in terms of laws, etc.
could be an interesting activity.
Surely you can see the difference between one person shooting a planned parenthood, and state sponsored execution of homosexual individuals?
This killing is sickening. My heart goes out to the family and friends of the victims…and the Orlando community.
Sickening.
sickening
If his 911 call wasn’t proof enough this was a terrorist attact:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/06/12/orlando-gunman-tied-to-radical-imam-released-from-prison-last-year-say-law-enforcement-sources.html?intcmp=hpbt1
The FL psychiatrists had an emergency meeting today, and they are ready to help. My friend just wrote an article. Offering psychological help is so little, but I have a feeling every profession in FL wants to help with the aftermath.
I’m not sure who this is attributed to but someone on CNN (?) talked about going into the club in the aftermath and just hearing all the phones of the dead ringing.
I can think of few more haunting sounds.
Appears the FBI interviewed the shooter at least twice since 2013 and there were reports he had already announced his intentions. Several people said he was mentally unstable. So this was not a surprise to many people it seems.
So sad in so many ways. Very sad for so many deaths and sad that nothing was done to prevent it.
^Oh, boy, romani that sounds like a scene from a movie. How desperate loved ones must have been@
^ Awful, haunting, heartbreaking – calls that can never be answered again by the intended loved ones.
Hopefully, some of those are people who just fled or are in the hospital and will get in touch when they are able. It is awful how many lives have been cut short way too soon and violently. It’s also awful the many, many more who will live with the trauma and injuries from the event.
@CADREAMIN - Thanks. I think we will still participate. I am just unsettled right now.
@bookworm - I am sure your FPA disaster response team and any other provider offering help will provide much needed comfort to those in need. Suspect the members of the GPA Disaster response team will be happy to help as well.
@soccerguy315:
Um, have you looked at what it is like to be gay in Africa, in countries like Uganda, where they are heavily Christian? Uganda for example is heavily Catholic, and has severe penalties for being gay, it is even illegal there to advocate for Gay rights, and it is similar in many countries there (Uganda’s legislature originally wanted the death penalty for having gay sex, which the Catholic bishops of the country said nothing against, international pressure made them change it, though you can still face many years in jail). Russia since the fall of the USSR has seen the Russian orthodox church have a massive resurgance and gays in Russia face all kinds of issues, including being sent to jail and worse. It was only in 2003 that laws making having gay sex punishable as a felony crime were made illegal in the US, and it took SCOTUS to do this. Within my lifetime it was still legal to arrest people for being in a gay bar or to be someone who was born male but was presenting as a woman…not to mention of course the religious right who have wanted and still want to use the law to make gays second class citizens, the ‘religious liberty’ laws they are trying to pass are basically trying to make it legal to discriminate against gay citizens, and it isn’t just about the baker with the wedding cake, many of those laws would allow a manager to override local law or corporate policy and fire a gay person and claim “religious belief”, they are trying to turn back the clock.
That doesn’t make Islam any less virulent or hateful, and in the US many churches and people of faith who are Christian are fully accepting of LGBT people, which I cannot say about Muslims, you can find almost anywhere churches and other houses of Worship that fully embrace LGBT people, you have to go a long way to try and find an accepting mosque in the US or elsewhere, though that is slowly changing, there are even some openly gay imans these days, which is progress, but trying to claim that homophobia is limited to Islam is flying in the face of the very real struggle LGBT people have faced here and elsewhere and much of that was due, not to Islam, but by Christian teaching and belief.
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Forgive me if this has already been posted (hard to keep current with this thread), but the shooter’s co-worker doesn’t seem too surprised that this happened, and (according to him) did complain several times:
None of these things in #237 would have allowed law enforcement to take any action. I really wish the media would show restraint and NOT show this animal’s photo and in any way glorify him or give him ANY publicity. He does NOT deserve any. Showing his photo could encourage copycats who also want their photo flashed around and gives him more glory and recognition than he deserves. He deserves less than nothing.
Can someone explain how one person can kill 50 people, and injure 50 more? Were some of the injuries/deaths due to injuries sustained trying to exit the club?