<p>the fourteen might have been SEAS only then.</p>
<p>Cuz I got a mail from the penn OPI ADM a few weeks back regarding on campus events for internationals. In that he/she mentioned 14 indians. But it might have been for SEAS as I am SEAS.
I dunno (HP fever 
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but, 11 from UAE is just epic!!</p>
<p>Indian international student in Brussels and looking for aid for US…any info?</p>
<p>THANKS</p>
<p>@pixie
last year bs sent a kid 2 cornell and another to stanford
nd the odd kid every coupla years or so has gone to penn :O</p>
<p>This is probably going to lead to some disagreements, but in my observation it’s competely true. The following schools will admit just about any full-paying international with a pulse:</p>
<p>Brown, the Dual-Degree programs at Penn, especially Huntsman (a guy from Westminster will be attending with an 1830 lol), USC, UCLA, UCB, Duke, Georgetown, UChicago, Columbia SEAS, and a few others I can’t quite recall right now.</p>
<p>Thoughts?</p>
<p>completely agree.
Brown, UCLA, UCB and columbia SEAS accept everyone.</p>
<p>However, penn’s dual degree programs are hard to get into. Like seriously hard. UChicago is also a very hard ask.</p>
<p>bballer: Idk, at my Penn interview, I met a girl from British school (who was also there for the interview) and she told me what I posted. I don’t think she’d lie?! Maybe it’s because most of those kids apply to the UK?
I did notice that she did not seem to be very well informed regarding admissions though. It’s funny, I thought counselors in schools like that would be pretty good since all the students apply abroad! </p>
<p>PD: If you tone down
into a more diplomatic sentence, you might find a few takers. 
Btw, I thought Huntsman was the most selective of all programs at Penn.
I agree for it being true for uchicago though. Waaah. 
They admitted so many absolute idiots on full pay from here this year. 
Columbia is hard to get in from India whether you are full pay or not. Brown isn’t very easy either.</p>
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<p>Unfortunately that’s what everyone thinks. These dual-degree programs, especially Huntsman and LSM actually get relatively few international applicants. I would rate Wharton single-degree and CAS single-degree as harder to get into than LSM for internationals. If you find that hard to believe, ask for detailed entrance statistics (your Admissions Tutor should also have them if Penn has visited your school) from the LSM/Huntsman program office. That should clear it up. :)</p>
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<p>Diplomatic? Me? Never! :)</p>
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<p>Meh, full-pay internationals always have an unfair advantage (and I say that without bias, since I am one too). There are a bunch of kids in the Stanford group from Eastern European countries who can’t even write one coherent sentence in English. I seriously wonder how they got in. :/</p>
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Well, if there’s one thing to laud him with folks, it’s honesty. 
That’s true. The head of Penn alumni committee told me that M&T (in response to me exclaiming over him being from M&T) is actually easy to get into since the applicant pool is itself self selective.</p>
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<p>In terms of raw selectivity, M&T is somewhere between Wharton single-degree [by far the most selective program at Penn], and LSM [by far the least selective program at Penn]. If my memory serves me right, M&T and SEAS/CAS are about equal in selectivity. (speaking for my region, of course. But this data could apply to other international applicants too I guess.)</p>
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<p>Not really. Speaking for internationals in general:</p>
<p>A 2100+, full-pay, 1-2 leadership activities-involved applicant who applies ED is all but guaranteed admission to Columbia SEAS.</p>
<p>^That is a highly misleading statement.</p>
<p>OT: 4 more days. yayayayayyyy. :D</p>
<p>Who likes anime?!
I’m Naruto Uzumaki! What I like is ramen, especially the kind at the Ichiraku Ramen shop. What I dislike is the three minute wait after you pour in the boiling water. My hobbies are eating ramen. And my dream… is to be the next Hokage!
:D</p>
<p>umm i beg to differ.
My application got accepted to
Penn SEAS with an option to study mathematics at CAS
Michigan (Dual degree from the engineering school and ross business school)
Berkeley (engineering)</p>
<p>(also I got an application request from harvard) Cuz I’m full pay but I didn’t apply (i don’t like their undergraduate program).</p>
<p>but got rejected from M&T. I emailed the person who saw my application (Ainsley Parker) to ask why, she said M&T is very selective and only 7-10 internationals get in. She said I didn’t make the cut there. So M&T is naturally harder that SEAS and CAS.
Its also harder that Wharton because it includes SEAS in addition to Wharton. Its simple logic.</p>
<p>@pixie
lol i happen 2 know coz i go there 
i’d be very interested to know who the girl was :O, didn’t think there were any girls applying from here, as far as i know it was 3 guys out of which one of us got in, and me and the other dude got rejected =/</p>
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<p>This doesn’t matter much I think, coz they send this to everyone above a certain SAT score threshold.</p>
<p>that wasn’t my point.
It dosen’t matter.</p>
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<p>What? You don’t even need permission from admissions to do that. CAS=SEAS in selectivity, so you can practically minor in just about anything between those two schools.</p>
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<p>That’s because you’re an average full-pay international, who put SEAS (which has plenty of space and relatively few compared to Wharton, willing to pay full) as an acceptable and binding back-up. You were basically asking them to place you into SEAS. You should’ve put Wharton as your back-up if you really wanted M&T. When you get to Penn, and are still curious, ask the international M&T kids, which school they put as their back-up when they applied ED. I guarantee you that almost all of them will say Wharton.</p>
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<p>Just about every person in High school gets that. Also, what don’t you like about H? If I recall correctly, you were interested in IB? At H you could practically major in basket-weaving and still get the same gig as a Whartonite who busted his ass studying Finance, Economics and Accounting lol. Wharton=Harvard in Wall Street recruiting. [Whartonites are cut slack in terms of GPAs but not as much you’d expect.]</p>
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<p>Actually, no. It isn’t.</p>
<p>bballer: Okey dokey! Well, I don’t remember her name but I can describe her if you really want. The interview was at the Google office and oh, her brother (who by the way doesn’t study at all and “only parties” as she said) goes to BU and she’s doing the IB. </p>
<p>Hi hi hi PD! So that means you’re not Indian at all? :eek:</p>
<p>Oh oh oh!
Calvin: Hobbes can you help me out with this math problem?
Hobbes: This one’s tricky. You have to use imaginary numbers, like eleventeen …</p>
<p>@pixie</p>
<p>lol didn’t really mean for u to describe her but uve confirmed who it is ;)</p>
<p>i figured out who it was before ur post, called my friend who got in and we realised that she also wanted to go to penn :P</p>
<p>OT: Happy Mother’s Day to all the mothers out there. Indian mothers are the best.</p>
<p>The excitement has been duly noted. ;)</p>
<p>"In terms of raw selectivity, M&T is somewhere between Wharton single-degree [by far the most selective program at Penn], and LSM [by far the least selective program at Penn]. If my memory serves me right, M&T and SEAS/CAS are about equal in selectivity. "</p>
<p>Umm you posted this. SO by your logic, if I got into SEAS/CAS I should have gotten into M&T also. I’m not sad that I didn’t get M&T, I’m just telling yo that you are wrong about this conclusion that you have drawn. </p>
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" When you get to Penn, and are still curious, ask the international M&T kids, which school they put as their back-up when they applied ED. I guarantee you that almost all of them will say Wharton. "
Umm if I want to study engineering why the hell would I put Wharton as my back up. I don’t want to study something just because its good. I liked the concept of Engineering+Business, but engineering was more important to me. I might want to go into IB later so I needed the open curriculum to decide what I want to do and plan accordingly.
Also you do need permission to study at both schools at the same time. Transferring is probably easy but I don’t need to meet the GPA requirement to do so if i change my mind. </p>
<p>I don’t like H due to the over the top competition over there. Competition is always good and I support it, but if it reaches the stage where you back stab people and loose your sense of conscience then I rather stay away. But that doesn’t matter, this is not the point i’m trying to make. </p>
<p>“Actually, no. It isn’t.”
Let me break this down for you. Is it easier to lift 200 ponds or (200+180) 380 pounds?? haha thats as simple as I could make it.</p>