Same with my son’s. He had his counselor resend them a couple of days ago, now it says received with a December 7 date. Very annoying.
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Am I the only one who feels that Kelley’s automatic direct admit criteria is unfair?
For a student with a 3.7 unweighted + IB Diploma + 1500+ SAT score + great ECs, may not get an admit against someone with a weighted 3.8 + 1370 SAT.
They are giving zero consideration to grade inflations at many schools and penalizing students whose schools do not mention weighted GPA in their transcripts.
I’m not able to come to terms with this bizarre criteria.
Yes, this didn’t make sense to me when I was at the info session and even asked to clarify. They said they take the highest GPA that is sent to them. At my daughter’s school for a 100% in an AP class you earn a 5.3, in the neighboring county a 5.0, in South Carolina a 6.0, and in some schools a 4.0. Totally unfair to the kids in the last category. At UTK they use the SRAR and publish what the student’s UTK GPA is. Some kids are higher than what they submitted and some are lower, but at least UTK can somewhat compare apples to apples that way. All schools should do that in some capacity. My daughter has a 3.96 UW (4.52 W and 4.62 at UTK) so it doesn’t affect her, but I still find it very annoying.
Exactly, while I understand it can never be a 100% objective criteria, but they are not using any context whatsoever, and just blindly going by the GPA on published transcripts.
How could a weighted 3.8 ever be better than an unweighted 3.7 with extreme rigor? Even if rest of the factors are similar (which they are totally disregarding nonetheless, except again a low SAT cutoff).
The least they should have done is made it harder like a GPA of 4.0 and 1500+ SAT for automatic admissions, so then rest of the applicants have a fair shot during review.
With this super low cutoff I wonder how much quota will even remain available for review requests.
If I had to guess, I think they will increase their cutoffs soon, because they will want to accept kids with higher SAT scores and have more space for kids who need to petition. And I do hope they change the GPA criteria to UW or normalize it for the all the kids the way schools using the SRAR seem to be doing. The UC schools also normalize GPA using their own formula.
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Same here. HS counselor confirmed it was sent and received on time. She said he was the 5th to come and ask. He meets DA Kelley requirements. It definitely makes me nervous, especially with conflicting release dates and now delayed date. I am surprised decisions have not been released! My older child 24 IU grad heard by now and others by dec 15. Jan 15, just seems unreal.
Well, I don’t think they can change the criteria after guaranteeing direct admits to those who meet it. That would be even more unfair. But it sucks.
My daughter has had her heart set on Kelley for a long time. She even attended their summer program from OOS. Maintained a 3.7 UW GPA in a rigorous IBDP, worked super hard over the summer break to score 1500+ SAT.
It breaks my heart to think that she may not get an admit despite stellar record for Kelley’s typical class profile. I’m now mentally preparing her to consider her other schools.
I meant they would change the criteria in coming years, definitely not his year, that would really be unfair and people would be even more mad. It sounds like she should get admitted pretty easily with a petition.
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That’s the impression we were given in the parent presentation during the summer program that they have enough spots for review petitions.
BUT considering the significant increase in application numbers and still the same low cut offs for automatic admits, I doubt many spots will remain, if any.
It seems to me IU has/had a huge glitch affecting TONS of applicants thus this new date of Jan 15 has appeared. What a mess.
Where did you see a date of Dec 15th? We always had it as Jan 15th in the application portal.
S25 portal has always said “by January 15”. But I’ll note this from the IUB website… And S25 is a DA to Kelley… Note the “MAY” hear by Dec 15…
My son’s portal doesn’t show any date. He is still showing that he’s missing the transcript, although we have confirmed that they have it.
Is the date on the home page for the portal?
Right below the “Current Status” label, we see a box with RED borders with the following:-
Decision Release Timeline
If you submitted a complete application by November 1, you’ll receive a response by January 15.
If you submitted a complete application by February 1, you’ll receive a response by March 15.
If you submitted a complete application after February 1, your application will be considered on a space-available, case-by-case basis.
It may not be fair, but it has always been the direct admit criteria. They take unweighted/weighted whichever is on the transcript. You can also argue that students attending multiple high schools (because their parents moved) should not be penalized and asked to petition as well.
I wouldn’t think about it as punishing, I empathize with your feelings. Many are meeting this 3.8 with weighted and those that are have well above a 4.0 weighted so it wouldn’t make any difference if they raised that. The point that they have a cutoff is the right way to think about it - they have a cutoff that drives a lot of interest, Kelley feels just fine about it. They don’t care about a student with a 3.7 and 1500 SAT any more or less than they do a student with a 3.8WGPA and 1400 SAT. They all pay tuition and succeed - this is what they care about.
They have enough spots for petition but they will accept very few petitions - two things are true at the same time. I’d estimate this year will be around a 15% success rate for petitions which means around 2000-2500 petitions of 17-18k submitted of whom 500 will enroll.
Yeah, agreed. Whatever happened to “holistic” admissions and meritocracy. For Kelly, it doesnt matter whether a kid scored 3.8 W at a school which is notorious for grade inflation, against a kid scoring 3.7 UW at a competitive school. Good for them.
I think all schools in each state at least should have the same grading system. neighboring schools count Aplus and no minuses and some schools weight their honors/AP the same. it would make admissions jobs easier.
Interesting. My son doesn’t have that. I wonder if his portal is different since they haven’t uploaded his transcript (everything was sent on time)
My son’s portal has these boxes….
APPLICATION DEADLINES
YOUR IU CHECKLIST
UPLOAD MATERIALS
YOUR APPLICATION DETAILS
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My D has:
DECISION RELEASE TIMELINE (with the red borders as described by @Idontgetthis )
YOUR IU CHECKLIST
UPLOAD MATERIALS
YOUR APPLICATION DETAILS