Seems like very few people in MA have heard?
Iām cracking up. My daughter thinks someone at school heard from Indiana but not anyone else. Sheās doing review request b/c of TO so we arenāt anticipating knowing anything from Kelley anytime soon? She just heard last night from PSU and got into Smeal main campus. She was deferred at Clemson (Iām an alum). Anyone else review request?
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I know a few have (including twins at my sonās high school), but not many. 30 students from his school applied.
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Nothing here (MA). 4.0uw and 34ACT. Last name starts with B. Heard two theories, they were going with alphabetical order or by high stats down. I just think they havenāt got to his yet 
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Thanks for sharing! Daughter is mid-midterms and hasnāt been checking the past several nights to stay focused on studying.
Weāre a B as well but my daughterās friends are later in alphabet and have heard. They also have lower stats 
Not alphabetical. We have to friends from NJ that got in, last names A and V!
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Might be more to the numbers in some cases, however. Per our high schoolās Naviance profile (OOS for both these universities), the average ACT of students accepted into IU is 2 points higher than those accepted to MSU, and the average (1-100 scale) GPA is about 1.90 points higher. So, itās possible that the overall acceptance rates of the two schools being about equal may be in some part caused by self-selection and various other competitive factors.
I have no idea what the comparative in- vs. out-of-state acceptance rates are at the two schools, but they may also diverge. The numerical basics would point that way: IU has to compete with Purdue for in-state kids in a state with 40% less population, whereas MSU has far more in-state students to choose from and its main competitor fills half of its class with kids not from Michigan. So that would make it not surprising if, between the two of them, MSU has the lower in-state acceptance rate, as it can be a bit pickier. If the overall rates are equal, that would then mean IUās a tougher admit for out of state students. [I think. Not a former math major, nor a CPA]
The bigger factor, as others have noted, however, is that Kelley is in a different world from Broad in terms of reputation and competitiveness. Not a knock on the latter, but just look at the profiles of the kids looking for DA to Kelley whose parents are posting on this thread. A lot of them arenāt even wedded to undergraduate business majors - theyād go to Northwestern or Duke and major in History or Economics in a heartbeat over IU.
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Agree, Kelley is a safety for OOS kids (we are IL) that have the right numbers.
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Son received email around 1:30 PM notifying him that he will not be advancing to the finalist stage for the Wells Scholarship.
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Nice analysis. For those qualify for Direct admit, Kelley admission is a big deal. Most OOS kids including mine will only attend IU if the review petition is approved. In fact, he applied to IU for getting into business school. Same goes for MSU. He is accepted and waiting to see if he will be a direct admitā¦seems more difficult in MSU to get into business school if not direct admit. If there is no direct admit for Kelley or Broad, he prefers to go to his other acceptances or those awaiting still. There is a big time gap between university admittance and review for petitions/applications for direct admit to business schools in both MSU/IU. That puts a lot of stress on applicants. It should be one decision- one way or other instead of this two phase decisions.
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Can someone in the know please clarify the process for merit scholarships for those who were DA to Kelly OOO? Are there automatic scholarship considerations or need to apply separately or both ?
My understanding is both.
Weāre OK with it for our S25, and very much appreciate the available path into Kelley of just taking the same freshman classes as everyone else and getting sufficient grades. As opposed to, say, Colorado, where if you donāt get into Leeds directly itās very difficult to end up there.
I think it depends on the studentās profile and criteria, and would bet there are plenty of students who would attend IU without Kelley petition success, who either arenāt aiming for, or arenāt as likely to get into, vastly more selective schools. Like our kid. He wants a school spirit place with big time athletics. He didnāt like any of the privates in the limited world of schools with reputation on par with or better than a middle of the pack B1G school like Indiana but not 15% or less acceptance rate where he wouldnāt get in. And heās not so wedded to an undergrad bus degree that heād go to, say, MiamiOH (where he was accepted to Farmer) just to be in a business school. Heād rather head to Bloomington and find a different major if he doesnāt get the grades to stick in Kelley. So for him the petition process is relatively low stakes.
As you said it rightly it depends on the kidās interests, profile, difficulty to get into preferred major and ability to choose other majors outside of business school if things donāt work as planned. My kid is fixated on Finance or accounting as his major /career option. So, I keep advising him to not be fixated on the school but be focused on ability to get into major of interest which should be decider for him. It is a big risk (50k plus/ year). Some schools the requirements for entry to major are not tough but Kelley could be tough as one B- is enough to block the entry into business school. In that way, Penn State entry to Smeal is better as it is just a 3.25 min GPA and Cās are ok in one or two courses.
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Actually - for finance at Smeal, the requirement is higher. U need a 3.5. Itās more competitive than the other smeal majors.
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Iām having that issue with my son. His top choice is UVA, then he wants to try for McIntire, so he pretty much needs to hit the lottery twice as an OOS. I prefer the direct admit route. He has DA to Clemson, Penn St and South Carolina already so he has good back-ups (plus hopefully a few more next year). I like the fact schools provide a clear path to the business school if you are not a direct admit. It on the kid to perform and do what is necessary instead of applying to the business school and going through the application process again.
Thatās awesome your kid has options. I know one kid who was a valedictorian and admitted to UVA McIntyre. He did make it to his major after meeting the GPA requirement but it was a stressful process for him and his parents being an OOS. He is now doing great in his career and thatās the plus side of a rigorous grind in a reputed program. Good luck.
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Thanks. I just like schools that say get a B in these classes and be in good standing and you in (or whatever specific criteria they use). McIntire you have to apply after your Freshman year (used to be after second year) and itās a whole new application process (GPA, rigor, ECs, essays) all for a set number of seats.
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So nothing to be expected until January 15th?
My kid last year got in on December 29th. I was hoping for some more releases.
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