She was accepted on Monday (1/13)
Itâs not an invitation system, you go to IU Scholarships on One.IU and submit the application. The system tries to recommend opportunities based on your application which doesnât mean top merit or stats - it means maybe thereâs one for IU alumni children or a state of residence. The email is to try to remind people to submit. If you donât receive the email for some reason you are still equally as eligible.
Almost all OOS should expect to pay at least $40-45k net after all awards to set expectations. A higher Deanâs is sometimes not awarded a Hutton or a lower Deanâs might receive a different number. And if you are from states/locales where IU is trying to bolster reach you might get a touch more. New BIG10 areas like So Cal or Pac NW for ex.
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Thanks! Mine had delayed acceptance yesterday so Iâll wait a few more days.
So scholarship considerations arenât automatic?
The site is so confusing. It seems that there is a general scholarship application that he hasnât completed. Underneath (under Current) there is a IUB Hudson and Holland scholarship of $7k. I think this one has a deadline as well. So should a kid first complete a general scholarship form before completing this one? So confusing.
Is there any indication as to when they would hear following the essay submission? Are they then waiting until regular decision comes out? This process is so bad.
Question for Kelley Direct Admit.
When youâre directly admitted to your major, is it a done deal, or does one need to still compete for limited spots in certain majors like finance, at the end of freshmen/sophomore year?
Two different programs. HHSP is very specific separate program working toward historical underrepresented individuals being able to afford and attend IU and is a totally separate program from âscholarships.â HHSP is run by a separate office.
I believe all scholarships are awarded by March 15 although FAFSA is a problem.
What is confusing is that IUB offers these scholarships at all. Most do not because itâs a huge time drain. If you accept you will get probably zero it makes it way less confusing.
In about 2013 IUB changed the way they offer scholarships and not for the better in terms of more aid to students. Itâs slowly migrating to a more 1 size fits all scholarship program but there are a lot of old legacy endowed small scholarships that exist thru the University that eventually will migrate out to a separate system. But for now the existence of the money and the old legacy scholarship system exist. Thatâs why the separate application.
Kelley doesnât care what you focus on. There are no limited spots. About halfway through your junior year youâll need to figure out which one you are taking enough classes in to graduate. The workshops, clubs, certain classes etc⊠is where limited spots come in.
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So if mine isnât a minority (he isnât), we shouldnât bother with HHSP. But should do general and Kelly specific one, right? Boy itâs a lot of essays, but we are OOS, so will take whatever he could get.
My Kelley graduate â24 is not a minority and was awarded this scholarship. He was not even required to write an additional essay but there are minimal requirements you need to do to keep it throughout the 4 years.
He did however apply for other supplemental scholarships which each one had different application requirements.
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Thank you @jefrobertson
Sorry to stretch on this, but are there any constraints w.r.t. enrolling for classes related to certain popular/competitive majors?
Weâre at a point where we want to narrow down our choices. Kiddo is bent on Finance major. Want to be aware of there are additional roadblocks to clear and if so are they easy/hard. For example in Smeal, you need a certain GPA threshold for certain majors.
I cannot tell you what to do - just what they are.
IUB - moderately competitive. Kelley - moderately more competitive but still very reachable. From there: almost everything at Kelley is competitive. Itâs what you are doing with Finance - the IB, the investment management, consulting which is what a lot of Finance kids want to do is extremely competitive. Roadblocks come from the students at every school and into life. Do you get up on time to register, do you join events, do you network well, etc⊠The lower ranked the school typically the more you major and participate in what you want, but less career outcome. Kelley is a very big place with a lot of talented driven people. Itâs the kidâs race, they figure it out (which Iâm not discounting your post, just the kid makes it what they will not the school).
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Our daughter wants to major in finance too and also admitted to smeal. We have some concerns regarding size of both programs. She is also considering a few others including Fordham where she was offered great merit and a small honors cohort program with just 15 kids including paid trips (one to Europe). We feel like there could be less competition within Fordham but Kelley and Smeal are great for different reasons. Itâs so hard. I get nervous hearing about the competitive nature of these workshops and business frats. @jefrobertson question for you, we live in Boston where our daughter has already interned with Fidelity in high school (itâs an actual program for high school women and is fantastic). Her dad and I have worked in investment banking, hedge funds, consulting (BCG) so we have connections. How important would all the âworkshopsâ etc be if sheâs pretty well connected when it comes time for internships and jobs? She also grew up in NYC so I just donât get this feeling that sheâs not going to have enough opportunities if she does the work. Obviously she has to do the work. I just want to know if thereâs room for plenty of kids to follow the path they want?
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I couldnât have worded the question better. Thatâs exactly I wanted to know.
Itâs understood that kids have to do the legwork, but how accessible are the opportunities can help decide between the options. Obviously itâs all very nuanced and a lot of other factors will come into play for final decision.
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Was it this program ? Thereâs a poster on here whose kid did this I believe. You might get perspective on that angle to compare. You can find their old post. It seems an unreal program.
In life, itâs more about who you know. That typically trumps what you do - if you are fortunate enough to know someone. Most donât.
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Thank you! Similar, itâs the Ignite Scholars. https://www.fordham.edu/gabelli-school-of-business/academic-programs-and-admissions/undergraduate-programs/honors-programs/ignite-scholars-program/
I agree about connections. I grew up in a smaller town in SC, went to Clemson (full ride, honors) but not exactly known for business. Worked my butt off and landed a job in investment banking pretty much on my own. Itâs not easy and likely harder now. Bottom line, the kids will be ok. And they have to do the work.
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Impossible to know all of this, which is why I write its kid dependent. Everything is very âaccessibleâ but extremely competitive. Maybe there will be 1300 Finance majors in a class. And some will join social frats and focus there. They might have family connections that land them jobs while they do the Little 5 and have an awesome IU time. And some will focus on the IBW with a singular focus. Maybe 600 apply to the IBW and 60 will be accepted and thatâs largely done by networking as much as itâs grades or scores. And those other 540 students face a near impossible IB path. And have put in a ton of time that itâs tough to now pivot to consulting.
As for career outcomes itâs mostly the AI initial screen that makes it challenging if you can bypass that by a rec then youâll be fine no matter what you do.
IU is excellent at career outcomes but itâs not always the career outcome of expectation as it is the one you earn. To the question room for kids to follow their path? No. And Yes. Not enough room to do what you want just by signing up, but more than enough to grab what you want should you put in the work and have the skills. You either like the game or you donât. And truthfully thatâs true at a lot of colleges - one of mine does not go to IU and faces those same exact capacity constrained issues. We have a lot of conversations about fairness vs equal. Nothing has been unfair for her. Just not what she wanted or thought she did.
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Thank you! This was really helpful. Definitely gives us some things to think about.
Iâm guessing itâs like most other deferrals that put them in with regular decision.
Sorry, just saw this. My understanding from the email exchange was to pick a Red Carpet Day and then select the SPH specific info session in the afternoon.
We toured last year and set up time with the Asst. Director of the program. It was a good conversation that gave us more nuanced information to help us compare with other programs. Perhaps you see if you can tag on a meeting like this