Oh good! Best of luck to your son!! I was in your shoes last year and I remember hearing the info from Kelley being reassuring
Thank you! If you don’t mind, I may come back and ask you a couple questions on the course selection if I need to! Looks like IU has changed some requirements, specifically about math I think, and I think there’s a new course that’s being offered and I’m hoping to find out more info on it!
Of course. That’s a new math class, Math for Business. It’s one of 3 math classes they can pick from. My daughter just took it. People often complain about Finite Math, meanwhile my junior son took it and it was doable.
I went to Rutgers New Brunswick Business school session with my son after he got admitted to the business school. The AO told us the admit rate this year for New Brunswick as a whole is 28% and even lower for the Business school which specifically got around at least 24k applicants- their highest ever. Interestingly, for IU he is still waiting to be admitted to Prebusiness after having the review petition submitted in Oct!. I can understand not being admitted to Kelley direct but deferral for Prebusiness was a shocker! His school does a weird GPA weightage-- so A in AP is 4.25 and A in regular course is 3.75!.. so it seems they just went by GPA on application as a cut off and did not even read further! His SAT score was well above the cut off. Luckily he has narrowed down to Penn State and Rutgers among his 6 acceptances. IU and its review process for Kelley is among the strangest for sure!
That’s really good to hear, both great options.
If we were nearer to East coast, it would have been an easier decision for us to pick either of Rutgers NB and PSU Smeal. I’d personally lean towards Rutgers a little bit more based on my research on career outcomes and direct path to business major.
It’s crazy how some high schools calculate GPAs; thankfully most colleges look at GPAs in context.
Would be interested to hear what your daughter thought of it! This is where my son feels stress about hitting the needed marks for Kelley. Although I’ve heard a couple courses can give some heartburn!
Anyone here going to check out Herbert? As my son waits to hear from Kelley, he’s going to a Future Canes day. We are very eager to hear about the next batch of Kelley admits But in the meantime, we will explore other options.
As a parent of a recent Kelley grad my DS was a direct admit. He had to drop and retake core classes and it was a grind and very challenging for him. We didn’t want him to go into a business program without a direct admit as it was too risky for him. That being said campus tutoring was helpful and he graduated with a degree in finance. My DD was a direct admit and honors admit to Kelley and given what she saw her brother endure she chose UF as she wasn’t absolutely sold on business. She is a rising junior studying business with a minor in wealth management and has loved it. She always said if Kelley was located in warmer weather she might have changed her mind. Just reminding folks it’s great to get in but it’s very challenging to stay in. Lastly it seems to be who you know for internships and jobs as that’s is what we’ve experienced.
Thanks for the insight! Yes, I would agree on all this so I want to make sure he’s prepared for it and also thinking of a plan B if there and it’s not working out. We are off to visit Miami of Ohio (my alma mater), and he is a direct admit to the Farmer School of Business with some really nice merit aid so that may also be a possibility for him. It’s been brutal this admissions season. My youngest child and I can’t WAIT to be done with this part! We seem to be in the deferral cycle and I’m guessing it will turn into the waitlist cycle, so super fun times.
And to add, my older son is at Purdue as a mechanical engineering major so if my younger goes to IU…that would be interesting as a house divided!
This is helpful. Do you happen to recall which courses were problematic?
There’s a basic accounting class that was taught remotely by the same professor for years. Rumor has it that professor has left and class is much easier. I would have to ask my son about the others as it depended which professor you had (some hard to understand d due to accents) and some classes with just four test grades for the semester. So if you bombed one it was hard to come back. We used campus tutoring a lot and that was helpful. He would also say go to every class and stay on top of the material. As it goes quick and hard to cram. I would also say advising is not great so be sure to have your student follow their class bulletin for all required classes and when to take them. Sometimes you can get the last slot to register which is stressful but that always seemed to work out when classes started and they added more sections. Just sharing so you go in with your eyes open as it can be a roller coaster depending on how hard of a worker your kid is! My kid survived and thrived with a great college experience but not without stress due to hard course load.
Edited to add - join the IU Kelley Facebook page and you’ll maybe get a sense of the weed out classes
The IU Kelley process is about auto direct admit kids. No matter how fair or talent or any other factor, this is how they’ve built priority. There is some irony there because Kelley, like most Bschools, is a lot about who you know not your numerical achievement once in.
That petition process is apply by 2/1 and they will tell you around early April. It’s not rolling or intermittent or based when you applied. It is timed intentionally around Fisher, Ross, Wisky, UCs, Ivy Day etc… with the idea that kids commit May 1.
Kelley releases a few petition decisions early, as they did last week. It’s not about their enrollment numbers, it’s about some priority characteristic that their AI picks up.
Kelley will approve about 1-2k petitions a year typically so this is not some impossible reach. There’s no reason to believe that’s not true this year too.
And my kid decided to go to UW Seattle despite being an auto-admit to Kelley at a school in UW (Foster) way lower rated than Kelley and which Foster explicitly tells you that if you are not first gen then you really don’t need B-school and probably will not be accepted and will be just fine. And they are not wrong in that opinion. Plenty of kids in her stratosphere were accepted at Michigan, but deferred at Wisky and denied at USC but accepted at Duke but denied at UW Seattle but in at UCLA. There’s very little rhyme or reason to it all - you are talking about 100k kids all applying to the same schools. But it all works out. Often not until close to May 1. Everyone from Bschool to PoliSci has an equally probable chance to end up in your basement working at Starbucks anyway.
Source please.
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How many b-school finance/accounting majors have you met working at a Starbucks? Or did you mean Starbucks corporate office? That’s more likely.
I cannot deny your prolific posting on this app and I cannot keep up with it. I wish you sincere luck in your applicant’s search, maybe they’ll cross paths at UW unknowing their parents interacted on a message board about colleges!
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Any new admits today!?
Was the deferral from IU? Or admitted to IU and deferred to the major of pre business?