Thank you for your kind words.
Herbert School of Business at U Miami!! Received the Presidential Scholarship so that helped him make the decision.
Best of luck to your kiddo.
There is no rank for the waitlist, so they accept based on availability. So if 100 kids commit elsewhere, 100 are in off the waitlist. It is based on availability, not on who has the best application, GPA, or test scores.
Not really.
IU accepted enough students to account for their historical yield…the percentage of students who they forecast will accept the admission offer. They would only go to the waitlist if the yield is lower than expected. Deadline for admitted students to accept an offer is May 1, which is why many times waitlist offers don’t happen until after that date.
This year, they said waitlist offers will come out April 25th, compared to last year that was May 10th.
My son was also WL today. He was not DA due to 3.7GPA but had a 1480 SAT and 11 APs with 4/5s. I am not sure what he will do, he has all As in all-AP classes senior year having figured out an organization method that finally works for him so in that regard I think he could do SA but of course we dont love that option as he is planning on a CPA so he will have to transfer if there is an issue, and he is athletic with a knee injury that is very close to requiring surgery if he does it again.
He REALLY liked the “vibe” and campus at Kelley but he was definately given the VIP treatment at Purdue Daniels who said he can easily graduate with a Masters in 4 years (where we have an older son triple majoring in cs, ai and math) and he also liked Fisher but I think Purdues would win out for the amazing tuition and our collectively familarity. All that said he is currently on the couch wearing an Indiana shirt so I am not sure what is going to happen here At least he has ruled out his other 8 DAs.
Sad news.
That’s great, they must anticipate sending some waitlist offers out before the admitted student commit date of May 1.
But that doesn’t change what I said about how determining whether or not waitlist offers are even given out…a given school’s yield has to be lower than estimated to offer waitlist spots. Meaning they have to have quite a few students turn down their offer of admission before they get to making waitlist offers. IU’s overall yield for class of 2024 was about 18%, I haven’t seen IU divulge Kelley yield, but I expect it’s higher than 18%. https://iuia.iu.edu/apps/cds/?campus=§ion=C.+First-Time%2C+(Freshman)+Admission&year=
The limbo of the WL…sometimes I think that can be even worse than a rejection. At least with a rejection there’s no “well what if this, what if that” it’s just a straight up move on and get moving…
Hopefully he will get positive news on that front sooner rather than later -
These are very respectable grades in academic rigor, and test scores on SAT and AP which indicate there’s brain power to go along with sheer hard work. And he’s figured out how to gear up for himself. What does this tell you? It tells me he’s earned the right to bet on himself.
Yes, he might not make it or he might not like the CPA track or even the business school track so why take the risk? See Above - his Grades, his AP Grades as a Senior, His AP scores… these all indicate upward trajectory - he’s getting stronger as he goes… so again, it sounds like he’s earned the right to bet on himself - he may just need for you to step up behind him and say “Shoot your shot, I believe in you, I’ll bet on you… and if you come up short or change your mind, then we’ll know that and we’ll move on from there”.
One of Michael Jordan’s more famous quotes goes “You’ll miss 100% of the shots you don’t take” - of course he’s also famous for the whole “The Ceiling is the Roof” gaff - but there’ wisdom in it. He’s young, his only obligations at this point in his life are to him - there will be plenty of times down the line where he will have to make choices based on his other obligations to wife, kids, family etc. Right now is HIS TIME to bet on solely on himself - shoot his shot and find out.
BTW, my son is finishing his First Year at Daniels (Finance / Gen Management) He was WL at UNC, then declined but given a guaranteed sophomore start there if he met their minimum criteria - He’s quite enjoying Daniels but is transferring to UNC this fall as it’s his home state (tuition is 9k) and wants to go to KFBS… but will be entering in as a Gen Ed/Econ major and will have to apply to KFBS after he completes his second year. He’s on track to be a 4.0 as a freshman at Daniels now - why take the risk that he might not get into KFBS if he transfers to Carolina? Same philosophy as above - he’s earned the right to bet on himself. I’m betting on him, and if he comes up short, we’ll figure that out too.
Good Luck.
Thank you for sharing your experiences! I am at a rare loss for what to advise. You are completely right, this kid has gotten stronger and stronger on his own timeline and for that reason, I am trying to let him make this decision without influence. I dont know the right answer (heart or head) so I am trying to leave it to him. My DH is a carbon copy ACCT/FIN double major CPA/now PE/CFO and is not as objective and I think our other son’s extreme sucess at/through Purdue is weighing in a lot of him, but its a different major and this is a difffent kid.
I do think college is a special time to go where you feel you will thrive. I turned down a full ride to do it myself and it turned out very well for me but it’s not an easy decision.
Has he liked Daniels? How his experience been good at Purdue?
Yes. From application, to communications with the admissions office, to acceptance and campus visit on Daniels Admitted Student session, he felt like they saw him as an individual with his best interests in mind. Like the majority of first year students who are already in Daniels, he still takes the majority of his classes on the general campus buildings not out of the business school buildings - but still has interactions / events to attend over there.
He’s performed excellently - and has enjoyed not only Daniels but also Purdue in general. I’d say he “loves” it, but as a 19 year old male… professing “love” for a thing might be a difficult word in his vocabulary.
Limited complaints/ downside from his perspective -
Though his mother (who did her undergrad at Purdue and Professional school at Illinois) and I (did my undergrad and my Professional degree at Illinois, my MBA is from UNC) tried to tell him that what we call “winter” here in the middle of North Carolina is called “fall” or “spring” in the heart of the MidWest… he has admitted he wasn’t prepared for February.
There has not been much assistance / focus from Daniels on internships for Freshmen to Sophomore so he’s had to put in his own legwork for finding options here.
Since this is a IU Kelley thread, I will add he did not have GPA stat for ADA at the time of application, but was above it at graduation (which obviously doesn’t really matter), so he was accepted at IU but in a secondary choice like Mathematics or something - and Purdue had taken him right away. Plus by the time he made his choice, he already had the Sophomore Guarantee Start at UNC in hand so we knew that unless something really odd/great occurred during his time a Purdue, he would likely be spending one year on campus. Purdue was the logical choice for him as he was “in” at Daniels and would be taking the B-School curriculum classes, the COA for Daniels is about 14k less than Kelley (My COA tracking has us finishing this year at between $54-55k as OOS, with travel back and forth from the Southeast). AND about 3/4 of my Wife’s extended family are all Purdue Grads…so there’s that.
Being fair, this was more about weighing his specific unique position than a commentary on Kelley vs. Daniels. Saying that, his younger sister will most definitely have ADA stats for Kelley even if they buff them up some, and so application to IU Kelley for ADA from her is almost certainly going to be submitted… because her first choice is UNC but being DA in KFBS is a slim chance even with her stats, and the fallback to being admitted to UNC in their ‘general pool’ as an economics major to then apply for admit to KFBS after 1 or 2 years… just getting into UNC even with her stats is a coinflip at best… more so a crapshoot.
So for us, I do have an appreciation for the Kelley AD approach from both a parent perspective but also seeing how it’s a useful tool for a program as large as Kelley with a ton of applicants to have to try to shift through.
Thank you so much! Very helpful!
Any news for anyone this week or was last Friday the last time emails were received?
Well today is the day for those of us still waiting on petition decisions! Has everyone mentally or literally moved on to other schools?
We are still waiting - he would go to IU with the DA.
keeping our fingers
I do not expect to get in, so I have basically moved on!
Guys, does anyone know how many ppl are typically taken off the waitlist?
Depends. There is no rank, and it depends on how many of the automatic DA kids commit.
Per google AI - The Kelley School of Business at Indiana University admitted 86.8% of students off its waitlist in Fall 2023.. Not sure how many were in 2024 and how different it will be in 2025
Just got rejected