Jeffrey Epstein

Lutnick lied, and he did so in an unprovoked, totally voluntary setting, designed to make himself look more virtuous in comparison to others who appeared unvirtuous. That is sociopathic behavior IMO.

He needs to go, and I think he will. He seems like the most likely sacrificial cow at this point.

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There’s been zero sacrifice outside of Gaetz. But he never made the cabinet. Any other president lutnick would be long gone.

Pete is there and he compromised lives and security overall.

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Lutnick in 2005 per CNN

Lutnick said he saw a massage table in the middle of the home and that Epstein told him he got a massage “every day.”

“And then he like gets, like, weirdly, close to me and he says, ‘And the right kind of massage,’” Lutnick said.

Lutnick said that after that interaction, “I was never in the room with him socially for business or even philanthropy. If that guy was there, I wasn’t going, because he’s gross.”

Lutnick in 2012

Get the kids and Nannies ready. Uncle Jeff is treating us to lunch - yes, I created this line so no source but me

Why is he still employed Donald ?

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As my grandfather used to say, :poop: always stays afloat, never sinks.

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I’m watching Washington Week in Review, and they just showed Lutnick’s testimony.

I remember at the time thinking how weird it was that he said that he left and took his children and wife and nannies and that they were all together. When I first heard that, I thought “Well, yeah, we didn’t think you left your kids with that pedo,” but now I think the reason he made such a show of “we left together” is because maybe he stayed behind, and that’s when that pic was taken.

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Gee, Epstein had a LOT of acquaintances who were rich powerful men who “barely” knew him, didn’t do anything wrong, saw nothing wrong going on, and broke off their relationship with him aaaages ago. [insert sarcastic emojj]

Wonder whey they supposedly ended their supposedly short-lived friendship with a wealthy, super connected guy if he was a-okay??

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But hey - as someone who grew up with domestic violence in his household, Bill Clinton would NEVER be involved in kind of unseemly behavior towards young women…

Oh, wait.

:unamused_face: :roll_eyes:

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Yeah, Bill Clinton was no choir boy, but he allegedly stopped socializing with Epstein in the early 2000s.

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Did ANYONE who fraternized with him - even those that said he was creepy/met him and he was terrible - step up when he was accused (and eventually convicted in the early 2000s)?

Did any of them say to law enforcement, hey I didn’t do or see anything illegal, when I met/socialized with JE but he invited me to X party or to Y island or to meet Z person, or implied he could do A for me or set me up with B women? It just seemed off and and you should talk to C or look into D.

SOMEbody (obviously) had to know SOMEthing or see SOMEthing.

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So did everyone else. Apparently they all barely knew Epstein.

(/sarcastic)

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If Clinton was involved in sex acts with underage girls, put him in prison.

Because even if you lean left, you want the criminals dealt with properly. That’s what it means to not be in a political cult.

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I totally agree.

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I totally agree.

This is not about what political party anyone belongs so - it is about people held accountable for their actions.

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Hope this gets by the “no politics” filter:

As a Democrat I believed Clinton was an effective president. Doesn’t mean I think he is a good and virtuous human being. If he is involved in any of this, let him suffer the consequences.

NOT AT ALL debating the merits of his presidency—-simply juxtaposing my political opinion of him with my opinion of his morals.

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200%

I want ALL who are/were involved in sex acts with underage children (girls and boys) imprisoned! Name names, show me their disgusting faces, shame them and toss away the key (for as long as it takes).

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If Clinton did do naughty stuff with Epstein – poor Hillary.

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Hillary is a strong woman and made stronger by some of the sh_t she has had to endure with Bill. She will be fine.

I never loved Bill. I respect Hillary. I have wondered if they have taken the stance that if this takes them/him down, then this takes them/him down. It’s a late in life time to take a stand and do what’s right - with the consequences if any (depending what he was actually involved with!)

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I think they have the benefit of some very sophisticated lawyers (in addition to their own legal training) who have advised them that a public questioning (which they did not succeed in getting) where they get to put their respective narratives out there (Hilary never met Jeffrey; Clinton DID meet him but was not involved in anything illegal with him) and then repeat, repeat, repeat was the best path forward.

Trump either did not get this advice, or has ignored this advice. And so this has now become a years-long distraction with multiple denials, obfuscations, Bondi v. Bannon, etc. And the Andrew formerly known as Prince may or may not have gotten solid legal advice– but his response (assuming that his royal lineage and privilege was a legal shield) has clearly been inadequate.

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Well, if someone actually did the deed, no amount of lawyering can hide that indefinitely.

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