<p>Thank you msperl. Now can you get the mashed potato recipe?</p>
<p>So is it necessary to stay within a like minded community like that to hold true to those ideals or can a young person of strong convictions go out in the wider world and not be overwhelmed? (Thinking of the very funny book “Mennonite in a Little Black Dress” - a must read summer book). We know a young man who is off to Biola in the fall (which always makes me think “ebola” - LOL). I wonder how he would do at a place like Reed, Vassar or Grinnell which are known for being fairly free-wheeling and self regulating (or not) - without any practice at moderating his own behavior as he has only really hung out with “his own kind” as it were.</p>
<p>“My mom believed alcohol was the devil. Sounded intriguing to my 14-year-old rebellious self. (…and so it began)”</p>
<p>14 and drinking - now there is a thread waiting to be discussed in detail. Heck with parental moderation!</p>
<p>Really? 14 was pretty normal in my day. And, back then, my friends and I would actually stand outside the package store until someone over 21 would buy for us. Of course, once I was 16, I had a fake ID, so all that was no longer necessary. ;)</p>
<p>I absolutely believe that one who desires moderation needs to stay with others who also engage in moderation. It may not be what people want to hear but I have seen so many moderates stray once they leave a conservative community. Large cities like San Francisco and New York are notorious for unleashing the flood gates of self indulgence in a person who has grown up in " moderation." </p>
<p>Personally, I am not a moderate, nor do I consider or ever want my daughters to be one. These are just my observations. My best friend- a Mennonite girl graduated from high school, lived in San Francisco for a few years and now she is an agnostic who votes for Obama.</p>
<p>back to gaming . . . DS just reported to me that he at 52/15 kills to deaths (“which is massive” apparently) should I worry - with the whole concealed carry thing on campus in some states I wonder some times.</p>
<p>Saintfan, quite possibly…</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.gunsandammo.com/2012/03/29/8-reasons-for-concealed-carry-on-campus/[/url]”>Firearms, Ammunition & Accessories Media - Guns and Ammo;
<p>I’m all for carrying concealed weapons, but only on dry campuses. Or where the students only drink in moderation.</p>
<p>I’m traveling and went to church this morning at a place not my normal congregation. At my home church, communion is by intinction. Here, however, it’s the common cup. As I raised the cup to my lips, I was very tempted, after the discussion upthread, to drain it. However, remembering the virtues of moderation, I took just a moderately large gulp and let it go at that.</p>
<p>My guess, though, is that concealed-carrying campuses and dry campuses are mutually exclusive.</p>
<p>Concealed weapon laws concern me the most when traveling. I don’t like to even go to Texas, knowing that any stupid hothead can be carrying a gun. After all, most gun deaths don’t occur from strangers but people that we know, like jealous ex boyfriends and crazy fathers.</p>
<p>Good job, annasdad. I was bad; skipped church again.</p>
<p>
I don’t like chocolate remember?
It’s a type of blackberry.
[Salem</a> (Oregon) Online History - Marionberries](<a href=“http://www.salemhistory.net/commerce/marionberries.htm]Salem”>http://www.salemhistory.net/commerce/marionberries.htm)
And actually although I do use medical marijuana for pain, I shy away from edibles because it is hard for me to predict the dose.</p>
<p>I lived in a suburban area where many of the parents had liquor cabinets ( my parents and their friends did not), but 14 would have been on the very young side.
My parents had health concerns and weren’t able to monitor me as much as they would have otherwise. I was aided and abetted by a friend who lived nearby whose single mother was essentially never home, and we were supplied by her older brother who also sold pot.
I decided that when I had kids I wanted to be more involved.</p>
<p>Annasdad, you know that you probably got more than a moderate share of germs then, right? Or does the alcohol ‘kill’ the moderate germs?</p>
<p>I don’t think that anyone under the age of 24 shouldbe able to carry a weapon at all. Concealed or right out in the open. Of course my 92 yo father in law still carrys, and that is even more frightening.</p>
<p>Mom0809- I thought the holy spirit killed the germs.</p>
<p>In Iowa in the seventies, 18 was the legal age to drink. We had lots of kids who turned 18 their senior year and were happy to supply the beer for multi-age parties. It was pretty common to start at age 14.</p>
<p>Mom0809: are you kidding me??? If we are going to have a free country there should never be any restrictions any gun rights! All campuses should allow even their drunkest kids to carry guns…ALL KINDS TOO! THIS IS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!</p>
<p>Of course I don’t believe what I just said. I do believe in moderation concerning drunk college kids and weapons.</p>
<p>Mizzbee: I agree with you! Texas is frightening but here in Ohio the laws allow guns in bars! Crazy!</p>
<p>But I wouldn’t really care if Texas seceded. Good riddance.</p>
<p>MizzBee - as long as you don’t have disgruntled ex anythings, you have nothing to worry about being in Texas. Lately there has been a very large upsurge in the stories about murder suicides. The heat must be getting to us.</p>
<p>I am hoping the new healthcare law would finally drive us to secede.</p>
<p>I do consider guns as a deterrent against mutual distruction. No one knows who has one so everyone behaves.</p>