My son may want to transfer out of Columbia University--school ideas?

Princeton does not require the SAT currently what are you talking about??

My son is at Brown, studying abroad this semester. His perception was that the encampments and protests from last year have cooled off considerably. Brown would definitely be a great fit, and he’s had lots of kids from RISD in his classes and he says there’s plenty of crossover between the two schools. Fwiw, my kid said that after Brown, Swarthmore was his favorite school we toured, he felt like it had lots of similarities- quirky, smart, creative students. Oberlin reminds me of a smaller Brown, as well, although it is in a little bubble outside of Cleveland- it felt more rural to me, with only 1 hotel near campus. As alternatives maybe Vassar or Haverford? I’m so sorry you’re going through this, it’s a tough time for so many right now.

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Sorry…you are right. It’s getting hard to keep track of who has returned to test required.

Regardless…where is the reference that ā€œmostā€ junior transfers need to provide an SAT or ACT score.

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here is a source for harvard: Transfer Applicants | Harvard.

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I understand….but in your above post, you said ā€œmostā€ colleges require standardized tests for transfer students. I’d like to know where that is noted.

The best thing any transfer student can do is contact admissions…and ask what the specific school policy is.

no i said most ivies also require it for transfer

This is what you wrote.

Let’s just drop this as it’s becoming a debate.

The student should contact the specific colleges…and ask their policies for transfer students.

i thought very clearly that this was reffering to the ivy league since it seems like they want to apply to an ivy league school lol, but i can correct it

I have always thought that humanities students might be better served by a top notch LAC like Williams or Bowdoin than one of the Ivies. At a school like Williams my guess is a student would enjoy smaller classes, better access to professors, and a more personal atmosphere than at Columbia.

As to mayhem on campus, perform a quick internet search to identify schools where the encampments, protests and intimidation of students by activists have ruined student life as they have at Columbia, and remove them from your list. Many campuses will have encampments and protests, but not all are out of control.

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Many of those which are described as ā€œout of controlā€ are not. Wealthy and influential alumni have been putting pressure on universities like Columbia to see them handle these demonstrations in ways that the alums prefer and not necessarily in ways that are in the best interests of the students.

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In an earlier post in this thread, I suggested that Northwestern University might be of interest to OP’s son. After a quick review of Northwestern University’s transfer application page, I read that transfers into the theatre dept. in the School of Communications is not permitted due to the rarity of openings in that top rated major. It is the only major at NU-besides the Bienen School of Music–impacted in this respect.

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I would double check on what kind of transfer credits Chicago will take from Columbia. They might be generous with transfer credits for the Columbia core classes since they both have core-heavy curricula, or they might not. They have a reputation for denying many transfer credits so that you may be signing up for more semesters than you realize, esp. if you have 2 years of credits to try to get approved.

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Well, anti-Isreal protestors at Columbia took over buildings, disrupted classes, blocked students from going to classes, intimidated and harrassed Jewish students, and vandalized the university president’s home among other buildings. Those actions sure
were not in the best interest of the students. And yes, the protestors were out of control.

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You were there? Are you including the Jewish students who were among the pro-Palestinian protesters?

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No, but I read the reports from NYT, CNN, etc., watched the videos and looked at the photos of the vandalism. If Jewish students engaged in these acts, then yes, I include them.

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I’ll assume that the back and forth between the two users above glhas comcluded. If my assumption is incorrect, please take it to PM

Edited to add: Compliance isn’t optional. I’ve hidden the post below this one for noncompliance

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I’ll shamelessly plug Northwestern. My sister (econ/history), niece (theater), and both parents (business) are Wildcats, and they all loved the school. NU is strong in just about every field, has a beautiful campus, and is a short train ride from Chicago. Bring a heavy coat. The book store used to sell t-shirts that said, ā€œHarvard: the Northwestern of the eastā€.

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Vassar would seem to represent a good fit for a student with your son’s interests.

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My niece is at Columbia and said at the end of last year she literally could not hear in her classes, the noise outside the windows was so loud. She also could not sleep at night because the deafening noise from the demonstrations went on through the night. My daughter is at Harvard and although there were encampments in the Yard, it only affected student existence if the student chose to get involved; students who wanted to focus on their studies could carry on as before. That was not possible at Columbia.

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