Octogenarian romances? Who has had experience with this with their parents/in-laws?

I. Am. So Relieved. And I don’t even know these people!

Is there any way to verify what he’s submitted? Just curious. Like I said way above, I never thought that he was after all her money. She was the one who piped up that she would pay half of the living cost, even though she didn’t need to. (Thanks, MIL! :roll_eyes: ) I think he is a lonely person who needs a woman to feel good about himself and to tend to his various needs (ahem) and finding one who can more than carry her own financially is a plus.

Have you spoken to her since having tea? I’m hoping that she is feeling better/more enthusiastic.

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I’m glad that your MIL at least got Bob to sign pre-nup and hopefully she’ll be happier now that there are fewer “things” left undone. Still, the moving is probably exhausting. We had to clean up decades of “stuff” under H’s family home so it could be sold and that took us several months and we ultimately had to hire someone to take several truckloads to “stuff” to the dump. It’s very tiring sorting through stuff and figuring out a new life in a new place.

So glad that at least the legal paperwork is in place. That must give SIL & your H some peace of mind.

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That’s a big “hurdle” that got accomplished - one less thing to worry about.

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That’s good to hear- I feel like you and your dh have done a really good job of being neutral and helpful even if you’re not feeling entirely enthusiastic about the situation. I really hope sil will come around at least a little- I have a close relationship with my mother (and my daughter) and would hate to have a rift form at the end of life.

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Bob’s money will go farther now that your MIL is paying half the monthly fees.

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Re: latest news about OP’s MIL -

  1. big relief, I bet, for your extended family that Bob signed the prenup. That’s great news.
  2. I think it’s nice that you took your MIL out to tea, even if she didn’t seem very enthused about it at the time.
  3. This is just a thought, but maybe some of MIL’s lukewarm mood at the moment could be from the general stress of moving. Even when you’re younger, moving is stressful, can be complicated sometimes, and is full of nitty gritty details. For somebody in their 80s, that can probably feel a little overwhelming.
  4. Doing this move to the CCRC is a big step. And once she sells her house, it means that a chapter of her life is ending. It also means that it’s a step closer to the finish line of her life and that is something that always gives a person pause. It’s sobering.
  5. …therefore, she’s probably coming to terms with both the excitement of a new boyfriend/fiance/soon-to-be-husband AND the mixed emotions of soon selling her house, downsizing her possessions, etc.
  6. And she’s probably also realizing that maybe all of her friends from her neck of the woods really are NOT going to visit her 3 hr away at the CCRC.
  7. AND she’s probably finally realizing that her kids are really not over the moon excited about this marriage like she is. And maybe she was hoping that it would be different.

It’s a lot of big life changes all at once. I think it’s pretty normal for somebody going through a lot all at the same time to have a down day once in awhile.

Many years ago, my husband’s grandmother decided to sell her adorable 2 BR, 2 story condo and move in with my husband’s aunt & uncle. Grandma put her condo on the market and got an offer within a week and had to move out within 6 weeks. Great, right? No. Grandma thought her condo would end up on the market for a few months, so she thought she’d have time to adjust to the realization that she’d be moving. It ended up being a quick whirlwind that was a little overwhelming for her. Had she to do it all over again, she probably would have waited a bit before selling the condo so she could get used to the idea of no longer having her amazing ocean view anymore.

Anyway, back to OP’s MIL…
Given how MIL’s adult children feel about her decision to marry Bob, having a civil ceremony at the courthouse with just the 2 of them is not a bad idea.

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Such a reasonable synopsis of what is probably going on with her. It didn’t dawn on me she may also be grieving a little, but can’t speak about that as she won’t get sympathy.

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#4 and #6 are not the first in mind but very likely could be very spot on.

All the #’s combined are a lot of “risk” so to speak - but yet, she STILL wants this. Point being, this may be how very much she does not want to be alone and maybe just really wants Bob - to put all those #’s into play and risk.

I forget if I asked this recently - apologies if I did or if I’m not remembering right - or if you just don’t want to answer @Hoggirl ….do I remember that your MIL hasn’t always been the warmest person in your family relationship(s)? I feel like I remember her coming to visit in your Florida home for the holidays and it being a stressful time for you then to have her (and I remember from your description, that your stress was warranted!). If so, that behavior then and her behavior now kind of jive together - a woman who is going to do what she wants, when she wants and she would like to be accommodated. Was she also critical of you or others and what they looked like in terms of weight or how they dressed?

NOT dissing her. Plenty of people act this way. But it isn’t exactly warm and friendly and welcoming! Which maybe shares some light with the current situation.

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Obviously @Hoggirl has to answer, but I do recall MIL wants to be totally waited on and not lift a finger. I’m sure that’s partially the result of practically being a slave to her husband. It will be curious how this marriage is in that regards.

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@Youdon_tsay - I mean, I guess mil could demand to see his supporting documents. As part of the pre-nup, they each individually attest that the balance sheet they have provided is true to the best of their knowledge. A couple of the numbers on his are pretty precise (to the penny and as of a specific date). The car and boat are likely estimates by him, but it hardly seems worth quibbling over. The cash items are precise, so I think they are probably true. I have not spoken to mil since our tea other than on our group Wordle/Quordle texts where we kind of discuss our plans for the day.

@abasket - @conmama has it right. Mil very much likes to be waited on. Expects to be waited on. And, I agree with her assessment- after waiting on fil for 58 years, I think she felt like she’d earned a turn. But, it was tiresome to have her visit when we lived in Florida.

She has always made jabs about my height. “Is that step stool for short, squatty people?” “Can you reach that in that cabinet?” Etc. She’s called 5’2” Friend L a midget to her face. And, yes, she tends to have what I call, “observational negativity,” where she constantly comments on the physical appearance of others. Height, weight, etc. I finally reached a bit of a limit the last time we were in her town visiting. She’d received their professional pics from the Transatlantic crossing. On showing us the one with the captain, she said, “He wasn’t a very big fellow.” (Bob is tall. Fil was tall. Tall is definitely viewed as, “superior,” and desirable in her mind for both men and women). My ds is 5’9”, and I’ve commented on some of the young people dating threads that the setting of height filtering at 6’ annoys me. So, I will concede that I am probably hyper sensitive about height. Anyway, when she commented that the captain, “wasn’t a very big fellow,” I looked straight into her eyes and calmly said, “Ds must be such a disappointment to you since he isn’t tall.” She had no response. Whew - talk about off-topic - sorry!

Overall, she is a good mother-in-law. She does not meddle. She was a wonderful grandparent to ds as he was growing up, which means so much to me since both my parents died before dh and I were even married. I really don’t have standing to complain. Lord knows, I am sure that I annoy her as well!

@sbinaz makes excellent points. As do others! This is a significant change for mil. I’m sure it is both physically and mentally exhausting.

They are headed to NOLA tomorrow as Bob is on a panel discussion there on Friday for some petroleum conference. Or something like that. Dh is taking them to the airport in the morning. Quick trip. Back on Friday and then back to her town on Sunday.

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Oh, we are going to that petroleum conference. I’ll have to figure out who they are and offer congratulations. Just Kidding.

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Wow Hoggirl - I now remember your prior mentions of MIL’s unkind comments about height and things. You are even more of a saint for doing all you have (and caring for her well-being) through this period!! :star:

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@Colorado_mom If you meet them, just remember not to call him “Bob.” :joy:

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Small world!

Ha, I’ve encountered other small world situations. But in this case it was all Just Kidding.

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Y’all give me too much credit. I am no saint! :rofl:

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Agree 100%. MIL needs her family and friends. And she may need them in the near future if she is unhappy being married to Bob.

Not being at the wedding is a “win” for Bob - potentially a way/reason for him to isolate MIL from family and friends. (“They don’t care about you Wife #5, they were not even at our wedding…”)

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Agree. “You don’t need them– we’re a team now! They couldn’t even take a day off from work to show up at the courthouse…”

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I don’t believe @Hoggirl has been invited to go to the courthouse.

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My daughter had a long relationship with someone whose parents were suboptimal. I’ll just say that.

It’s interesting in a long term marriage how long you are a part of and interact with your spouses parents. I’ve been married 40 years and my in laws are still alive. So is my mom, my husband has been a part of my family also

I told my daughter that although you don’t have to be best friends with your in laws, you will be dealing with them for potentially a very long time.

It’s easier when you like them.

@Hoggirl you’ve been an excellent daughter in law through all this.

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