Oscars 2018 Discussion

The question was rhetorical. :frowning:

Why did you need to say this? Just curious.

@skieurope, I, too, am curious.

I inferred it, correctly or incorrectly, from the second sentence. “Yeah, thought so.” I guess user didn’t want to use a tongue-in-cheek emoji. :slight_smile:

Really, really enjoyed Three Billboards today. Worthy of its Best Picture nomination. Should win some Oscars if not for best picture than for some of the acting which was impressive across the board.

I saw The Post yesterday. I thought Meryl Streep’s performance was wonderful-very nuanced and restrained.

I just got home from seeing Darkest Hour. I almost laughed out loud when I recognized a certain character from the discussions here or on the good movies thread. Yes, British version of Elmer Fudd indeed.

@Nrdsb4 Which movie did you prefer? I liked Darkest Hour better but I think I’m in the minority on CC.

@doschicos, it would be hard for me to choose. I really liked both of them.

So far I’ve seen:

The Post
Ladybird
3 Billboards
Darkest Hour
The first 30 minutes of Dunkirk (I was watching it on a plane, and it got too disturbing for me as I do have a fear of flying and it just wasn’t sitting well to see a film of that nature while on a plane)

Hands down, my favorite of those has been 3 Billboards.

I don’t watch gratuitous violence or sex at all, because I’m not a voyeur. Nothing more uncomfortable than to watch other people having sex. Ugh. So that limits my movie consumption.

I did see Dunkirk, because I’m a huge WWII movie fan. It just wasn’t interesting, and that’s a shame. Great story. Bad movie.

I’m pretty appalled that a movie about a 30ish year old predator preying on a teen has been nominated for Best picture. Ugh.

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Based on the first quote, I am assuming you have not seen the movie/read the book. So the second quote strikes me as more than a little disingenuous. While Arnie Hammer is 31, the character he portrays is 24, the 17 year old (although Timothée Chalamet is 21 and Oscar-nominated for the role) was the aggressor, and the age of consent in Italy in 1983 (when/where the film takes place) was 14. But, whatever.

My favorite best picture nominee so far has been The Post followed by Lady Bird. I’m going to see The Shape of Water tonight. That leaves me with just two of the 9 best picture nominees that I haven’t seen (Darkest Hour and Phantom Thread).

“Skieurope: Based on the first quote, I am assuming you have not seen the movie/read the book. So the second quote strikes me as more than a little disingenuous. While Arnie Hammer is 31, the character he portrays is 24, the 17 year old (although Timothée Chalamet is 21 and Oscar-nominated for the role) was the aggressor, and the age of consent in Italy in 1983 (when/where the film takes place) was 14. But, whatever.”

There was no careful attorney review to skirt the characters around legal age limits for this movie at all. (Sarcasm) No intention to find the youngest looking 21 year old on the planet nor to find a clearly over 30 man for the other role. Right.

The adult is the predator in such a scenario. It doesn’t matter how the story is dressed up for consumer consumption. A decent adult walks away from a 17 year old. Or a 14 year old, for God’s sake.

How far we have fallen as a culture when this scenario is glorified.

Your mileage may vary.

Interesting that I’m not the only one who sees this so clearly. Saw this: https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2018/01/25/call-your-name-dishonest-dangerous-film/I7urrCBxwZYrfPTT7eycdM/story.html

Call Me by Your Name: I had heard many of the negatives before seeing the film, so was prepared not to like it, even unsure of attending, as I tend to be a bit conservative.
Whoa, was I wrong…and glad I saw the film. Beautifully made. Stayed with me for days…

I did read link that TranquilMind provides above. In the comments on the article, one in particular by nimitta at 1/25/18 10:39, gives a different viewpoint…far more eloquently than I ever could. I just don’t see this film as an adult predator. YMMV…

It would be in my top 5 of the nominees, have yet to see Get Out. Three Billboards is my Fave…

Hmmmn, I agree with Boston Globe writer and wouldn’t watch a film with an adult grooming and having sex with a teen. Yuck!

You are certainly entitled to your opinion, although it would be more compelling had you actually seen the movie. I would also posit that Dana Carver’s Church Lady might have a similar opinion, and would probably ask what inspired the movie; “Could it be…SATAN?” That said, if sexual abuse is your primary takeaway without having actually seen the movie, I’ll continue to look elsewhere for movie recommendations. :slight_smile:

Well, I’m not a casting director, so I can’t say for sure (but then, neither can you), but if the goal was only to hire the youngest looking actor in his 20’s, they apparently overlooked Tom Holland, Freddie Highmore, KJ Apa, amongst many many others.

Agreed.

Perhaps I would be more convinced porn was morally wrong and damaging if I watched some. Perhaps I would decry murder more vehemently if I committed one. Perhaps I would think abortion wrong if I had one.

Some things you don’t need to do. The plot and photographs of the intentionally physically disparate actors is clear enough.

I have a problem with glorifying sexual abuse of teens as a compelling “coming of age” story. No. Just no.

I hear so many rave reviews about The Shape of Water, but I just have so little interest in seeing it after watching the trailer. Yet I feel like it would really be hard for me to have a valid opinion about how the Oscars turn out without having seen it.

I may just have to force myself to go. There are certainly worse things in life.

I’ve been very sick this week with yet another viral illness. I’m now parked in front a warm fire with my pillows and blanket after doing a bunch of errands in freezing rain without an umbrella. I’m going to order a movie and am considering Get Out. Though a nice nap sounds good as well. Maybe I’ll nap after watching the movie. :slight_smile:

I feel exactly the same way, @Nrdsb4.

Hope you feel better. I vote for nap and movie. :slight_smile:

For what it’s worth I didn’t like The Shape of Water trailer, and thought the movie felt quite different (and better.)

Well, as it turns out, “Get Out” was only available if I was willing to order HBO, which I wasn’t. So instead, I ordered a 2 day rental of Dunkirk. I had started it on a recent flight, but as I am an anxious flyer, it just made me feel bad, so I aborted and watched Sideways, a movie that I love and that never makes me feel bad. :slight_smile:

Anyway, I re-watched it and then finished it, and found it to be gripping, turbulent, etc., even on the “small screen.” I did realize upon second viewing that the music had contributed significantly to my discomfort on the plane. It was dissonant and scary, much like the subject matter. At times I wanted to mute the sound, but I knew this was a wimpy thing to do from my warm, cozy house, fireplace, and blanket. I cannot imagine what these men went through; it’s really mind boggling, and I get why many of these men whose lives were threatened time and time and time again, went home to wonder why THEY survived, and how they could never ever again feel entirely “normal.”

It was a good follow up to my last viewing of Darkest Hour.