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<p>Looks like teaching is where the job opportunities are for those with a bachelor’s degree</p>
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<p>teachers win again!</p>
<p>Looks like a liberal arts education may prove quite valuable in the near future.</p>
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<p>Again with 41% of the posts in one thread. Please quit encouraging this guy. Ignore his posts. Let his new threads sit unanswered. Maybe he’ll go away.</p>
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<p>You all heard it here, folks! 20 years from now, when Pizzason is being sworn in as POTUS, you are all invited to the White House inauguration, on me, and you can say you knew me when. I will be the Tiger Mom of the White House. Harvard Schmarvard … 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue or bust!</p>
<p>Pizzagirl,
Be sure your son employs Daniel Pink as his speech writer!</p>
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<p>I get random PMs from Asian kids from time to time telling me that I am doing OK as a parent. Those PMs make my day. All the angst from the non-Asian parents about how the fragile and easily brainwashed Asian kids will survive the demands of high pressure is so facile. Kids can take far more pressure than popular US wisdom would predict. Then the lack of pressure translates to lack of jobs post graduation.</p>
<p>It is interesting that no one wants to talk about the lack of jobs.</p>
<p>But ultimately, this is an issue of multi-culturalism. The plea from the non-Asian parents on this forum is simple. Why can’t Asians just hurry up the assimilation process and become just like non-Asians? Don’t they know that this is America and things are done differently here? Why, pray, are they not succumbing to peer pressure? It’s not like they have not been subject to huge dosage of that.</p>
<p>But the results speak for themselves. Asians are heavily overrepresented in the Elite Us. Assuming AdComs know what they are doing (a common theme that non-Asian parents want to employ when it comes to rejections involving Asian kids, but never when it comes to acceptance), the Asian parenting style is clearly working in producing well-rounded and accomplished kids at a much faster clip.</p>
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<p>ROFL! Next thing you know, a little art history makes you a better Starbucks barrista …</p>
<p>Right-- what happened to talking about jobs?? Someone change the subject?</p>
<p>Some more good stuff on the LA job market in the coming years.</p>
<p>[So</a> You Have a Liberal Arts Degree and Expect a Job? | PBS NewsHour | Jan. 3, 2011 | PBS](<a href=“http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/business/jan-june11/college_01-03.html]So”>http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/business/jan-june11/college_01-03.html)</p>
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<p>That article is from January and I do believe it was discussed already on these forums…in the CAFE.</p>
<p>Don’t Asian teenagers have one of the highest suicide rates in the world?</p>
<p>This is an old article, imasophomore, but it speaks to that tragedy [Suicide</a> Rates Rising Among Asian Americans](<a href=“http://www.asianweek.com/2009/08/14/suicide-rates-rising-among-asian-americans/]Suicide”>http://www.asianweek.com/2009/08/14/suicide-rates-rising-among-asian-americans/)</p>
<p>No, they don’t.</p>
<p>[PubMed</a> Central, Table 1: World Psychiatry. 2005 June; 4(2): 114?120.](<a href=“http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1414751/table/T1/]PubMed”>Table - PMC)</p>
<p>Indian Parent- I could point out to you how over-represented Jewish kids are at Harvard, Yale, etc. given the size of the population. But that’s both an embarrassment to Jewish parents everywhere- and given the history of the Ivy Leagues persistent quotas to keep Jews out, would be a stupid exercise anyway. However, I don’t go to bed at night saying, “hey my kids all attended elite universities, have great jobs, are doing well professionally, I must be the world’s greatest Jewish mother of all time and all those Episcopalians ought to doing what I did if they don’t want their kids pushing a broom when they graduate”.</p>
<p>I think it’s great that you’ve found a parenting style that suits you and your kid. I can assure you that my son (the MIT grad) who has dozens of Asian friends (Indian, Chinese, Korean, both ex-pat and first generation) can assure you that your methods are not the only style of Asian parenting. Many of the most exceptional and brilliant kids he knew had upbringings that differ markedly from the environment in which you are raising your son. Most notably the kids who grew up in economically disadvantaged circumstances who would marvel that someone would have the time to whack a ball against a wall-- or that a parent would have the leisure time to supervise such whacking.</p>
<p>You do realize that there are lots of Asian Parenting styles?</p>
<p>re post # 232 -Wow that data is old. And from first glance it seems to look at countries, not nationalities within other countries. Also have to wonder how accurately suicides are reported in other countries.</p>
<p>I think I parent with combination of Chinese and American ways. I see both good and bad when they are carried to extreme. One thing to remember is whether a kid is Chinese, Indian, Caucasian American, African Americans, they are still the same. A kid needs to have a drive within him to achieve his goal (and it needs to be his goal), it can´t be beaten into him, like many Chinese parents like to believe. I could facilitate an environment which would help my kid to achieve her goal, and I could also be her cheerleader when she feels down, but it wouldn´t be productive for me to define her goal and drag her to it.</p>
<p>I made a post in another thread about D2. She is in the midst of doing her college applications now. We have the means to hire a college counselor for her to work with, which makes it easier for her to be on schedule with everything she needs to do (I am facilitating here). But she is the one who made the decision to write her essays after she just had her wisdom teeth pulled because that´s the only week she has time to work on those essays. She is willing to spend the time to make those essays as good as possible because of her own drive in getting into her dream school(s). D2 is owning the process, and we are making it easier for her to achieve her goal. </p>
<p>Yes, ever since our kids were young, we have talked about how important it is for them to do their best in school (or whatever they are doing). At the sametime, we also tell them that once they have done their best, then they need to mentally let it go even if they don´t achieve their goal. There is no “could have, would have.”</p>
<p>D1 graduated from college with decent GPA, but not the best by Asian standard. She held many leadership positions while in college, and participated in many ECs. It is not the case with many Asians. D1 didn´t see that many Asians represented at student council, school committees, except at Asian associations. One thing Asians need to change is the mind set of GPA is king. Most employers want to hire people who could navigate through corporate politic because óften that´s the only way of getting things done. The idea of “if you are smart, could get things done fast, then you will be promoted and able to keep your job” is not really correct in the corporate world (it is also not correct in Asian society either).</p>
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<p>[NIMH</a> · Suicide in the U.S.: Statistics and Prevention](<a href=“Statistics - National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH)”>Statistics - National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH))</p>
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<p>Most countries are pretty homogeneous. Indians are … Indians. </p>
<p>If the data doesn’t match the prejudice, the data must be wrong.</p>
<p>From the Cornell University Chronicle Online:</p>
<p>April 19, 2006
Health expert explains Asian and Asian-American students’ unique pressures to succeed
By Krishna Ramanujan</p>
<p>Though the Cornell student suicide rate mirrors the average on campuses nationwide, 13 of the 21 Cornell student suicide victims since 1996 have been Asian or Asian-American. The victim count is sobering considering that only 14 percent of the total Cornell student body are self-identified Asian-Americans. A total of 15 percent of all Cornell students are from overseas, but the number of Asians among them is not known.</p>
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<p>You sure you don’t want to revise that? Because if that is true, the rest of your post is superfluous. You didn’t need to point out how others may think that my parenting style of nonsensical.</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.cdc.gov/men/lcod/2006/APIMales2006.pdf[/url]”>http://www.cdc.gov/men/lcod/2006/APIMales2006.pdf</a> Look at the suicide rate of the 20-24 and 25-34 yr old male asian groups in the US. Second highest cause of death, just below unintentional deaths., at 21.2 and 18.4% respectively (this is the most current data I found so far)</p>