Parents of the HS Class of 2017 (Part 1)

@jmek15 sounds like a nice visit, awesome!

@socalmom007 sounds like a bummer of a day. Hope for a quick turnaround with some good news coming your way.

@SincererLove good luck with MIT, it sounds like a positive sign. MIT does a weird job of recruiting. They are very opaque about the process and I guess don’t really “recruit” kids. Its more try to find some kids that have the skills to play AND the aptitude to study and do great things while they are there. That would be an incredible opportunity!

I had the talk about finances with my son. It went well. He has a decent understanding of everything I learned. He really just want to see all of his options. His friend group if fairly ambitious with big dreams. My son has some dreams too, I’m just trying to point out that you can have multiple ways of achieving the same dream and aspirations. Most of his friends have applied to big and famously named colleges, UMich, NEU, NYU, Boston U, UNC, UVA, UMD, UC’s, Tufts, etc. and that is having an affect on him. He is hoping to get into a school like that. I don’t know if he’ll get in, but he’s not giving up the “dream” until it’s over. So that’s where we stand, wait mode.

DD spent this entire week trying to catch up with school work after being gone for 1.5 week attending two finalist events and one leadership event. Quarterly grades were due yesterday and it looks like she is caught up with all but two classes. Hopefully, no colleges will ask to see 3rd quarterly grades.

This past week, she also had to choose between two upcoming finalist week events due to overlapping schedule. Since they were both excellent choices, it was hard for me to watch her withdrawing from one. I can only remind myself that this is going to be what’s coming in April - evaluating many choices and making hard decisions for a 17 year old.

First time through the admissions process. Had no idea how stressful the waiting would be. The good news is DD has been accepted at one school with a $23,000 scholarship. I think DD, DH, and I all feel that’s the school she’ll end up attending. But seems irresponsible to make a final decision until DD hears from the remaining 5 schools. Can’t happen soon enough. I’m ready to move on from obsessing about admissions to obsessing about how to pack her up and send her 2/3 of the way across the country! LOL.

Congrats on all the UC acceptances! Hugs to those who did not get good news.

D17 was accepted to the Physics/Astro at UCSD which was a surprise since we withdrew her 3 UC apps two weeks ago, though we only received confirmation of withdrawals from the other two so I suppose somehow, UCSD missed it. I asked D if this is giving her second thoughts about her choice, but she said no and she just might go to CA for grad school. A relieving answer for mom!!

@jmek15 Thanks for the trip report! I’m glad he loved it there, I’ve heard all great things!

@dfbdfb Same with me, I could not access that article.

@RightCoaster Glad the talk went well and sounds like he has a good head on his shoulders! I’m sure good news will come his way!

@jmek15 thanks for the update on UMD, sounds like your DS had a great time.
We are looking forward to our visit in April!! My DS isn’t doing an overnight so it was good to hear about the dorms.

Congrats to all of the good UC news!!!

Hugs @socalmom007 for a tough day yesterday and hugs to others on denials but there is good news still to come I believe that!!

@dfbdfb & @Fishnlines29 —I don’t the article was all that compelling, as in, did not bother to flip to the inside of the paper to see how it ended, but here it is. More of a human interest story for those of us on CC who know these stats already.

Allie Dreier, a 17-year-old from Glen Ridge, N.J., attended a friend’s family gathering recently when the question came up. A relative asked her friend, “What’s your SAT score?”

Her friend fired back, “How much do you get paid?” Ms. Dreier says. Embarrassed, the relative backed off.

At a family gathering two years ago, Ms. Dreier’s sister Missy and her cousin Emma Wishnow grew so weary of intrusive questions that they made signs reading, “I don’t want to talk about college” and held them up for all to see. Their relatives laughed and mostly kept their distance, says Missy Dreier, currently a sophomore at Harvard University.

Ms. Wishnow, a sophomore at Syracuse University, says a few sidled up and said quietly, “I know you don’t want to talk about it with other people, but will you tell just me?”

Anxiety over college admissions is reaching a fever pitch as high-school seniors await decisions from colleges for next fall. Making it worse, students and parents say, is a barrage of unwelcome and inappropriate questions from prying adults.

Sales of T-shirts reading, “Don’t ask me about college. Thanks,” are rising on Redbubble, says Martin Hosking, chief executive of the online marketplace based in Melbourne, Australia. Some parents make their homes a college-free zone and ban all talk on the topic.

Spencer Neville, 17, has started dreading social encounters with adults.

Ms. Neville, a senior at Derryfield School, a Manchester, N.H., preparatory school, is awaiting word from colleges about whether her applications have been accepted. Although she won’t know for several weeks where she’s going next fall, she gets grilled every time she leads visitor tours on her high-school campus or attends family gatherings.

“Every adult you meet, all they want to talk to you about is, ‘Where are you going to college? What do you want to study?’ ” she says. She wants to be polite, but “talking about college is the last thing I want to do,” Ms. Neville says. “They ask, ‘What’s your top school?’ and I say, ‘Oh, I don’t have a top school’”—and changes the subject.

All the talk is driven partly by growth in college applications overall. More high-school students are going on to college, and each is applying to more schools on average.

Applications rose 6% in the fall 2015 season compared with the 2014 season, according to an annual survey by the National Association for College Admission Counseling, an Arlington, Va., professional group. “That makes everything feel a lot more competitive,” says David Hawkins, a senior executive for the association.

The admissions process is dragging on longer for more students. Some 10% more students applied early for a Dec. 15 decision in 2015 compared with 2014, NACAC says. And 16% more students were offered wait-list positions in 2015 than 2014, leaving some in limbo as late as August.

It isn’t uncommon for students aiming for competitive schools to apply to as many as 10 colleges these days. Harvard says it received 39,041 applicants for its Class of 2020 and accepted 5.4%.

Also, admissions data fly so fast and freely on social media that some adults treat it as common knowledge. “People aren’t going to walk up to someone at a cocktail party and ask, ‘How much do you weigh?’ But they’ll ask a student, ‘How did you do on the SATs?’” says Brennan Barnard, Derryfield’s director of college counseling.

A college-selection tool called Naviance used by many high schools enables students to compare their grades and test scores to others from their high school who have applied to a college in the past and been admitted or rejected.

“Parents start talking about the data and they talk to their neighbors and their kids about it until it permeates the town,” says Steven Roy Goodman, a Washington, D.C., educational consultant and author. In some affluent suburbs, “it’s in the water,” he says.

The ability to mine data is turning more adults into oddsmakers. “Some parents will parse to death the statistics and achievements of competitor candidates already accepted or rejected by their child’s target schools, trying to predict outcomes,” says Sally Rubenstone, a senior adviser at CollegeConfidential.com, a forum on college​admissions​and selection.

The speculation peaks just as students most need a break. Many have spent two years or more making college lists and visiting campuses. By the time applications are in, “a lot of seniors feel like, wow, I can finally be a high-school student,” says Derryfield’s Mr. Barnard.

One mother kept quiet on Facebook when her son was admitted early to his No. 1 school, in an effort to be considerate, says Jane Shropshire, a Lexington, Ky., college consultant. She later learned that because she hadn’t trumpeted the news, other parents assumed her son had been rejected.

Many students try not to reveal their No. 1 choice. Asking teens their dream school is like making them announce that they have a secret, unrequited crush, says Shannon McGinley, a Bedford, N.H., parent. “What if they don’t get in? Then people are saying, ‘Oh, I’m so sorry, you didn’t get into your No. 1 choice.’ And it’s #Loser.”

En route to a family gathering over the holidays, Ms. McGinley warned her son Corey, a high-school senior, about such queries and suggested he “divert the question like a politician: ‘I don’t know about that, but I’m really looking forward to being on the East Coast somewhere.”

“It certainly felt like an interrogation every time I crossed paths with a family member” at the gathering, Corey says, adding that he didn’t mind answering some of the questions and can understand why people are curious.

A good rule of thumb for adults is to avoid all acronyms, says J.D. Rothman, a Santa Monica, Calif., TV writer and author of “The Neurotic Parent’s Guide to College Admissions.” “Don’t ask about ACTs, SATs, GPAs, UCLA, UNC—anything with initials.”

After all the applications are in, Ms. Shropshire advises students to tune out the noise from peers and adults and immerse themselves in arts, sports, academic or community activities they enjoy.

Encourage teens to have fun, Ms. Rothman says. Rather than asking, “What are you going to do if you don’t get into Wesleyan?” she suggests, “What are you going to do if you don’t get into Coachella or Bonnaroo”—popular music festivals happening soon in California and Tennessee.

And to adults who approach with questions, Mr. Goodman suggests a friendly rejoinder: “Uncle Joe, if you don’t mind, I’m taking a month off from this.”

Wow, Lots of good news since I was last here. Congrats to all those whose kids have made a decision. It’s a great feeling to finally know where your Kid will be next school year. Good luck to all those still waiting for admissions decisions and scholarship notifications. Congrats to the Vandy winners and others who have gotten scholarships.

@sdl0625 have been in a similar situation with a kid who was not going to graduate due to grade. It makes for very stressful spring semester. Hugs for you and your D.

@youcee Streaming a robotics regional also this weekend. Congrats to your sons team. Top 5 is Awesome! I love the game this year!

Now that we have a decision we are just waiting for housing portal to open D wants a specific floor of dorm so we need to get our info in as soon as it opens up. Then we cross our fingers!

We finally got to tour the school D accepted. She loves it! Thankful she has found a place she loves to spend the next 4 years.

Thanks for the update @RightCoaster. I think it’s fair for the kids to want all options on the table before they decide. I’m a big preacher of keeping options open and exploring things that wouldn’t seem like the obvious fit because you never know so these kids are handling things perfectly. Your son will make a great decision for himself because he sounds like a very grounded and logical kid.

@AngelaD I don’t think any colleges will ask for 3rd quarter grades but, on the change any requests came in before she is all caught up, the college counselor could make a call to the school. Congrats on the scholarship opportunities!

@NolaCAR The wait seems endless but we’re in the homestretch! Here’s hoping that after decisions are made the few months after that move at a slow pace so we can enjoy the months before we are sending them off to college. :slight_smile:

@CT1417 – Thank you for posting that here. I am that mom who refrained from announcing DS’s good news on fb back in December, so I guess everyone thinks he was rejected. Oh well.

I like the t-shirt idea.

Hugs @socalmom007 are the kids accepted at any of the same schools yet? I do feel for those two right now!

They are in together to two backups on the east coast, with enough scholarships each to bring them down to UC range. We would be fine with that choice, I’m afraid his parents A) don’t want him on the east coast, unless B) the school had a high prestige factor. We’ll see what happens with the rest of the UC’s and east coast schools. We’re trying to convince them UCSB to SLO would be very doable. That’s even if he gets in to UCSB. If he’s denied at UCSB and Irvine, per naviance, he’d be the highest stat kid from our high school ever rejected at those. It’s been a rough season, looking for the rainbow after the storm.

@CT1417 thanks for posting, I can see how kids find the incessant questions very annoying. I do ask questions of D’s friends, but more along the lines of - Do you have any plans for the summer? Do you have any plans for the fall?

@Fishnlines29 — I know, it is tough. A group of my son’s friends were over my house in Jan, and I had not seen any of them since the holidays. Wanted to congratulate the ones who had been admitted to their EDs, but did not want to make the others, who had not been admitted, feel bad. Messy process that will be behind us soon.

Son17 texted to tell me has advanced past the DECA states to a bigger national DECA event.
He sounds happy, 1st time he has advanced. He worked on a very long business research project this year for a locally owned national franchise and I guess the judges liked his presentation.
So that’s good, nice way to start winding down senior year.
He’s out participating in a Model UN event with some friends and teammates from school, hoping he enjoys it and maybe gets a good result. He loves Model UN, might be his favorite EC. He likes all of the kids and hangs out with a lot of them outside of school.
Tomorrow heading to a lax tourney and the high temp is going to be a balmy 25 degrees F. Yeah, might not be that much fun.
Kids might get a snow day coming up Tuesday.

First of his last college decisions comes in this evening. Yikes

I wonder if they sell, “Please ask me about college. Thanks.” T-shirts…in XXL.

We try to be sensitive around kids that either have been rejected or deferred from their ED/EA schools (and their parents) and don’t talk about any acceptances or scholarship possibilities around them. With friends and relatives that don’t have kids going though the process, with kids who got into their dream schools ED, and with teachers, etc. I can be a proud mama.

We only know a few kids that are totally committed. The rest of the school and community is bonkers and everyone wants that shirt that says don’t ask me about college!
I would probably be insane by now if I didn’t come on here and vent a bit.
So thank you, really.

@RightCoaster – congrats to your DS on DECA & good luck with results coming out tonight.

@STEM2017 I just joined this board and was reading back a bit to see what I have been missing. You are not a bad parent to ask your child to take out a small loan. My husband and I also told our daughter that we would like for her to take out about $5500 per year to help with the cost of college–if she attends her top choice school–OOS UVA - my alma mater. If she chooses our state flagship or one of 2 other lower cost schools, she does not have to take out loans. I was in-state and my parents paid for college (I paid for both of my grad degrees–in-state). My husband went to a private university and did work study, got need-based aid and took out loans. We may end up helping her pay these loans later and could potentially help with grad school if that is in the cards. I think having a student take out a loan is good for him/her.

@firstwavemom Don’t kid yourself, @STEM2017 is a horrible, horrible, parent. The only thing that could make him an even worse parent, would be to wear that little red speedo again to his kids pool party… ^#(^ X_X