Parents of the HS Class of 2020 (Part 1)

@redslp approximately. California used to be 222 for NMSF but moved up to 223 last year. A 730 in ERBW with 760 in math would give 222, 740 ERBW with 760 math would give 224.

I never really understood whether a perfect PSAT predicts a perfect SAT? or a SAT of 1520…

Yes. And last year mine got the perfect score in math and 700 in erbw. With no prep I don’t know if she can go 700 to 740.

@whataboutcollege
Our CG told the students to expect an average of 70-point increase from their 10-th grade PSAT, I don’t know where he got that number though. And we shall find out soon if that is the case for DS, lol.

@socaldad2002, I read that the writing score is not that important and would only used (if at all) to confirm the overall score, I.e. a 36 in English and 7 in the writing section might raise some eyebrows. Still, they take points for such things like handwriting. My son is still little, but has horrible handwriting, so I have a feeling he won’t be doing any tests with handwriting section.

@typiCAmom I hear you on the handwriting. I don’t know how my son’s teachers read his handwriting.

@VickiSoCal I thought I remembered your daughter doing very well on the PSAT. DS also got a 700 last year on the PSAT EBRW and is anticipating a perfect score on Math this year. His weakest area is usually grammar and punctuation, but does well on the Reading section. I’ll be rooting for your daughter!!

@Redslp and @VickiSoCal, I too hope your kids get NMFs this year. A week ago I could have bet a farm D has no shot, but after she surprised me with a high ACT, I am not making any predictions. She is a lot more invested in NSLI-Y, and I hope this year she makes it to at least 2nd round. Things are so much quieter on that cc thread this year, I wonder if it’s a good sign in terms of competition…

Btw, we are already making spring college visit plans, re-visiting UCLA and USC and making it to UCSD, with a stop at Universal Studios. Anyone else?

@makemesmart Did they take the PSAT 10 or the PSAT NMSF? I guess there are two different tests if I understand it correctly. I was just wondering if that would make a difference which one they took for your GC’s prediction about the 70 point increase?

I think any increase may be based on how much they studied for the PSAT last year. A 70 point increase may be low if they didn’t study last year.

I figure August/September test scores have reached the colleges since we’ve seen a marked uptick in targeted snail mail - 3 more came today. The material has DS’s major interest and some come with passwords and links to web pages to see ā€œhelpfulā€ information. He’s not interested. I read them all though.

Congrats on the great test scores that so many of your students have achieved!

Well DS got his first B. Sigh. C’est la vie. He was a little bummed about it initially tho. AP Lang is pretty tough especially with this teacher. I’m not too worried. He’s doing well in his other courses.

Been working hard on music including preparing for upcoming concerts, recitals, and working on summer programs’ auditions.

@janiemiranda
DS took PSAT 8/9 in 9th grade and PSAT10 last fall, psat/NMSQT this fall. According to CB, ā€œThe PSAT/NMSQT and PSAT 10 are the same test, offered at different times of year.ā€ I thought a 70-point increase is pretty huge @Nicki20, but I could see your point of a kid who took psat 10 with no prep and then psat/NMSQT with lots of prep, 70-point prejection could be conservative.

How about no prep either time? :wink:

oh how I wish we were only looking at our first B.

No prep here either. I think in our case it affected the math. psat 8/9 700, psat 10 680. 40 more points available in psat 10. Daughter admitted forgetting 7th grade geometry.

My daughter prepped a bit for the ACT and then did parts of the official PSAT practice tests that had been posted online. What ACT score do you think would be high enough to indicate there is a chance of a qualifying score on the PSAT?

@SoccaMomma AP Lang is tough. If your son already has a B, wouldn’t that just be the quarter grade? DS had a B first quarter as well, but it’s the semester grade that counts, the quarter grades don’t even go on the transcripts. DS’s teacher is tough, but engaging and effective. Typically there are only 1 or 2 students a semester that earn an A. BTW- What instrument does your son play?
@typiCAmom- Thanks for the well wishes. It sounds like your wise not to underestimate your daughter. Hopefully, we’ll all have good news in a few weeks. BTW-what’s NSLI-Y?

@Redslp Yes it’s his quarter grade. DS says it’s his favorite class. The teacher is quite engaging but demanding. He thinks he’ll be well prepared for the AP exam. Some high achievers in the class were in tears after getting their first essay back. And then quickly calculating their possible year end grade and GPAs. Only a handful over 80 in the 2 AP classes that the teacher has. It’s disturbing - this competiveness to get into the ā€œtopā€ college choices.

I have a D graduating in 2020. We are on a different journey than most on this thread. She’s not taken any standardized tests yet, and won’t until this summer. She’s not taken any AP classes either, and doesn’t plan to take to take any- or any SAT subject tests. She is a newly turned 15 year old who spends 20+ hours a week dancing at a ballet conservatory, has a steady job, and is in one dual enrollment class- but mostly she just isn’t super into academics like my daughter graduating this year. She does her classes (we homeschool) and whatever I ask of her, but just isn’t excited about school and never has been (we’ve done public school, private school, online school, and homeschool). She does want to go to college and study dance and elementary education- she wants to be a kindergarten teacher. Her job is in a daycare and she’s really exceptional with kids. Anyway, that’s us! Hopefully I will be able to guide her to some good college choices for her.

@milgymfam That is great your D has focus and you are letting her follow her own path. There are many kids in this country who are not super academically focused, but there is a skewed view sometimes on CC.

@MA2012 - Ha! The only reason I found CC was the stress of my older D applying early to top schools and being a QuestBridge finalist, so I get the skew. I figured since I’m here I can try to help younger D as well. Thank goodness there are SO MANY colleges in this country- there is definitely somewhere for everyone. Luckily my younger D has my husband’s full GI bill, so money is less of a stress.

@typiCAmom , we’re planning visits at some CA schools over our Spring Break also. So far, we have visits at Cal Poly SLO and UCSB. My S20 has already visited SDSU and UCSD and spent a week at UCLA with his brother, S18 . . . we’re also hoping to swing up to Oregon and maybe Washington.