I hope that you’ll be pleasantly surprised by Case’s neighborhood. It’s lovely–close to the fantastic Cleveland art museum and just beautiful. It’s much nicer than the neighborhood around UPenn IMHO.
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That’s too bad that any cities get a bad rep. I live in Nashville - it’s a hot place to visit - if you like honky tonks and drunk people. Yes, we have nature and civil war stuff but the reasons many want to come - when they get here they’re like yuck.
Midwest cities - some with old manufacturing - seem to have bad reps but Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Louisville, St. Louis, Indy - these are all great cities, any of which I’d love to go for a weekend, etc.
Atlanta - I go for work so maybe I’m not as “excited” about it - but it’s just sprawl. Yeah, it has some cool stuff downtown - but Case is closer to their cool stuff than Emory is.
Glad you are going back - that’s the best way to see a city and campus to get a feel.
My son started a job out of college last year. He’s out west but his HQ is in suburban Cleveland - and he’s been amazed at how nice it is. He’s been now three times - and even went to a Jewish museum one of the suburbs had which he described as excellent. We took him to CWRU when we saw U2 on the Joshua Tree tour there 5 or 6 years ago - and he didn’t like the campus at all. It came right off the list. But we ate in Little Italy and stayed and hung out downtown - and he’s always liked that city. But going in, I think we all had a similar feeling about it wasn’t going to be nice. That’s the historic perception places get.
Old reputations take long to be overcome and it is up to each person, but hopefully he’ll have a spark (or if he doesn’t and he did at Emory) - then - you have your answer too!!
Best of luck on your visit - either way - an I don’t like it visit is as good as a I feel home visit - in many ways.
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I raised my hand very smugly when the prof asked who’d read Invisible Man. 
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Thanks for the input!
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The plan is after coming back from Case, he will make the decision next weekend. Will report back how that will go.
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I’m doing the same. For all three of my kids. Even though 2 are boys.
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Congrats!
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Same!
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Thanks so much!
BTW, your kid’s full slate of results shows what a bizarro world we live in. Those across the board UC/CP rejections are crazy cakes in contrast to the acceptances elsewhere. I can assume they applied CS or the like, which doesn’t help. But sheesh.
We had no idea what to expect this year, but had some hopes that were apparently out of reach. The ironic thing is that we are in-state CA.
My kid, due to being in sport (unrecruitable), had to do an Associate’s Degree (Math) instead of more APs at their school (competing sometimes impacted attendance). Will be graduating in May with over 90 college credits that are UC/CSU-approved in subjects like Math, Science, English, Art History, Programming, etc. Very meat-and-potatoes courses, except for anything required for the degree (communications, health). An associate’s only requires 60 credits.
Part of all this effort was to be a reasonably successful candidate for the tippier-top UCs and Cal Poly (yes, the others exist but not all near a sports facility to continue training).
And my kid isn’t even trying to do CompSci but MechE. So it’s not the most impacted of engineering subsets these days.
Mudd won’t take any of her credits, ironically enough, due to how they do their core curriculum.
Given that we are state taxpayers since before the kid was born, it’s a bummer. (Again, I am aware that there are other UCs, and getting into SDSU is an excellent result in and of itself.)
My kid should be proud, but my heart can’t take this craziness.
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S24 committed to Macalester as soon as it heard his last reach school’s WL news (WashU). Last Friday, we attended Mac’s admitted students day. Many admitted students were not committed, but it provided wonderful opportunities to see what’s like to be at Mac (maybe 20% committed kids - they had extra sticker on their name tag). It was well attended, close to around 70+ students + families. Provost said there were visiting from 27+ states and 3 countries just for the admitted day. We met many families from California, Washington, and New York, oh even a kid from Helsinki!
My kid sat 3 different classes (GIS, poli sci, history,) and attended Art department open house. He seemed to enjoy very much, and we were impressed. They did great job organizing.
Already planning about move in day trip this summer - it overlaps with S33’s 4th grade first day, but we are very excited. Can’t believe it is really happening!
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My wife and I did a road trip from Texas to NJ last fall. We visited 15 cities including every one you mention above except St. Louis and Indy. We thoroughly enjoyed them all. They all had lots to offer. We aren’t even country music fans, but enjoyed both the Grand Ole Opry and Ryland tours, as well as visiting Jackson’s Hermitage. There’s also the Johnny Cash museum. And the hotel with the massive indoor atriums next to the Opry is amazing too. We did notice the preponderance of while, middle aged drunk revelers in Nashville… Pittsburgh was a surprise. So nice, so many things to see. And the college town area between Pitt and CMU was great – that’s where we stayed.
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I agree that those are bizarre results. We all know that admissions at selective schools are hard to predict, but it’s still shocking to see such results. Anyhow, HMC seems like an amazing school and the 5CC really seems to offer the best of all worlds. I’d have to think that HMC would still be a frontrunner with the scholarship even your kid got into those other schools.
@nmknh Congrats! As I’ve stated elsewhere, Mac seems like a real gem.
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We are in CA and S24 also applied to Mech E and has much better results out of state and Privates.
Harvey Mudd is a great choice and congratulations!!
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BUT…
Harvey Mudd annual tuition is $68,262. x 4 = $273,048.
That’s $273,048 of free college money. FORGET THE UC’S! Who cares about the UC’s who didn’t accept your kid! Seriously…Harvey Mudd has amazing STEM programs. Getting accepted there is a huge accomplishment. And the free tuition? Totally icing on the cake.
Screw UCB. Mudd is better.
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Yes, so you also experienced the “out of state phenomena” of the 2024 cycle.
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Also, after the Mudd tuition scholarship, that makes COA at Mudd cheaper than any of your UC options.
1 of DH’s electrical engineering professors at SJSU went to Harvey Mudd for undergrad. His professor always raved about what an awesome experience it was to attend there.
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Yes, this is a huge deal for us, the full-tuition scholarship. Makes the $25k-$30k cost of room, board, fees, electronics, transpo, etc. much more do-able with Mudd. Hence, Mudd was a best-fit reach (along with USC).
It’s just that if we didn’t have this Hail Mary with three weeks to decision day, the kid would be at SDSU for a comparable cost. The other out-of-state schools on the list ranged from $380k w/out merit to about $200k. We can’t be the only donut-hole family that was chasing merit OOS (like Stamps, etc.). And given the results of in-state merit from Mudd, USC and SDSU, our student didn’t have a bad profile.
Our family is way luckier than most. But the UCs/Cal Poly were more affordable reaches that we thought our kid had as good a shot as anyone to luck into. One tippy UC out of four was our thought. Three rejections and a waitlist was the end result. Understandable given the application volume, but pretty wild nonetheless.
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@thealternative - but it sounds like you haven’t seen the financial aid packages for most of the OOS schools, right? So you might still get some aid to reduce the OOP cost from 200k to… lower?! Also curious if MIT panned out - I know that you were looking there as well…
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Yes, some schools haven’t presented final information. So we are still in the considering options phase, incredibly. Mudd and SDSU are tremendous financial fit. All the schools on the list are ones the kid is willing to attend and would flourish at.
That’s a negatron on MIT. We toured it when visiting Olin. Think Mudd is a better fit for undergrad - kid is on the younger side.
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