**PSAT Discussion Thread 2015**

I am very, very much a (fan)girl. And if the October 2015 SAT works, then I’m probably going to stick with that unless I think I can get a perfect score on the new SAT. I did well enough on the old one, although a little lower than my peers.

@EarlVanDorn I can’t make any sense out of the top concordance tables. You pointed out that in the table, a new PSAT score of 1390 was supposed to correspond to an old PSAT score of 204. However, a new PSAT score of 1390 could be gotten with many different combinations of new PSAT subscores (M, W, R). I tried out 3 random sets of subscores that produced a score of 1390 and got selective indexes of 204, 208 and 213. It seems to me that each of these three selective indexes would correspond to a different old selective index, which in turn would correspond to a different percentile. Why does the chart say it would correspond to only one former selective index? I don’t know. By the way, earlier when I made some calculations with the charts, I only used the ones at the bottom that convert between old and new subscores.

@bunnyblue Don’t trust the concordance tables for determining how your score would compare to previous NMSF cutoffs. I’ve studied the tables and the scores reported by students today and they don’t reconcile. If you are in the 99th percentile, then you are close. Try to determine if your state is typically better or worse than the national average cutoff to get an idea if you will make NMSF.

1450, 215, 99%ile

@jerzmaster Will a 207 in Iowa be good enough for semi-finalist?

Is a 225 a safe bet for washington state?

I ended up with 750 in both math and english, 1500/1520 total.

Dude you got a 225… What are you worrying about? 220+ will be guaranteed in any state.

Sophomore living in Los Angeles, CA.
My PSAT score was 1410 so a 208.
Can someone break this down for me?
Did I do well? Why is my selection index low? ETC
Thank you all! And great job to the juniors!

@jrob1765 Some private schools offer large scholarships for NM finalists. You can do the research on which ones. One within a day’s drive of Colorado is University of Tulsa. NM Finalists who list Tulsa as School of Choice get four years tuition, room and board, or close to $197,000 over four years: http://admission.utulsa.edu/academic-opportunities/presidential-scholars/

What is the finalist process? Im kind of confused. Also whats the lowest score you can get and still have a 220 SI? Asking for a friend.

@franklinr20 Iowa is a state that typically scores lower than the national average. I can only guess, but I would bet money that you will be a NMSF this fall.

@BunnyBlue You are absolutely correct that the concordance chart really can’t be accurate when used for a composite score; the proper way is to look at the subscores. It’s just all messed up. I could print the thing out and study it for a couple of hours, but I’m just not going to do it. I’ve played with several sets of numbers and they all come up wrong, and that’s enough to tell me that either the percentile scores we’ve been given are wrong are the concordance table is not accurate.

@Waldoizhere Approximately 15000 of the 16000 NMSF become NMF. The finalist process is getting your school to vouch for you and taking the SAT to prove that the PSAT score is not a fluke. This still does not get you a scholarship. NMF have opportunities to take scholarships from select schools, but not all schools off NMF scholarships. You’ll need to research the opportunities available out there and decide if you want to take any of them. Many NMF don’t take any scholarship money from the NMSC program.

Thanks for the help @jerzmaster. You mind answering the second part of the question to if you know the answer. Also, most of my friend group got a 1450+, so either that test was super easy and cut offs are going to be brutal, or i just know a lot of smart people. Birds of a feather?

@JogginFrog Just to clarify, the Presidential Scholarship at U of Tulsa is a competitive scholarship, not a guaranteed one (although alot of the students selected for it are NMF). There are some other guaranteed scholarships that are “automatic” if you get NMF. Here is a list of some that have full tuition or full ride:

http://nmfscholarships.yolasite.com/

Will a 1470, 221 SI make semifinalist in CALIFORNIA (CA)?

Probably @appgodxoxo . As far as I know a 220+ is pretty solid.

You’re welcome @Waldoizhere . I think 1450+ means you have a lot of smart friends. 99/100 HS juniors scored lower than you and your friends on the PSAT, so you all did very well. The SI does not correlate exactly with the scaled score (0-1520). The SI score is weighted from for reading/writing/English than math. You can have identical 1450 scores and different SI scores. All that said… I think you can have an SI of 220 with a score around 1460-1470.

@jerzmaster im just pysched about a 1500 yo! Does your sat score have to be super similar to your psat score if you end up a finalist?