**PSAT Discussion Thread 2015**

@JuicyMango After reading how well everyone did on cc, I felt discouraged. But when I asked around my school (very competitive public school), nobody got above 217 (including valedictorian/salutatorian).

@jerzmaster Last year’s SI 218: 77 CR, 70 Writing, 71 Math
This year’s SI 217: CR 35, Writing 37, Math 36.5
Unless I made an error, 217 is converting to 214 using the tables.

Reviewing her test, she definitely needed to pay closer attention to the reading questions.

And I am really hoping for generosity from the CB :wink:

@EcSkater A close friend of mine still has not received scores even though pretty much everyone else at our school has (her sister even received scores). When she went to ask counselors they knew nothing.

Thank you @aron. What percentile was a 218 SI last year and what percentile is your 217 SI this year? If the concordance tables are right, you would expect that last year’s 218 SI would have a significantly higher percentile than this year’s 217 SI.

How CB calculates SI is SO UNFAIR!

The way CB doubling the actual raw scores does not represents test taker’s real academical ability.
Why can’t they use the raw scores? Why do they have to double the scores?

@jerzmaster I believe all were 99, except for this year’s math user % was 98. Last year’s may have been 99+.

Comparing to a past PSAT by older D–she was not a strong math student, yet made NMF. However, that math weakness meant she was not so far beyond Algebra II as D2 and was probably a benefit for the PSAT, I think. The old test played to her strength (she’s appalled at the reformatted CR section).

@bdragon um, how does doubling not represent “real academical ability?”

the confusion for me is the range. When I look at son’s math score of 37…there is a range of 74-76. How do they decide which? Am I missing something?

@penngirlpending national

PSAT score and NMSF Selection Index are computed using different formulas. Therefore, there is not a one-to-one correspondence between the 2 numbers. The PSAT score calculation gives twice as much weighting to the M subscore:

PSAT = 10 * ((2*M) + V + CR)
NM S.I. = 2 * (M + V + CR)

I have crunched the different combinations of subscores and determined that these are the possible ranges of the numbers:

PSAT | NMSF Selection Index range

1200 | 176 - 184
1210 | 178 - 186
1220 | 178 - 188
1230 | 180 - 190
1240 | 180 - 192
1250 | 182 - 194
1260 | 182 - 196
1270 | 184 - 198
1280 | 184 - 200
1290 | 186 - 202
1300 | 186 - 204
1310 | 188 - 206
1320 | 188 - 208
1330 | 190 - 208
1340 | 192 - 210
1350 | 194 - 210
1360 | 196 - 212
1370 | 198 - 212
1380 | 200 - 214
1390 | 202 - 214
1400 | 204 - 216
1410 | 206 - 216
1420 | 208 - 218
1430 | 210 - 218
1440 | 212 - 220
1450 | 214 - 220
1460 | 216 - 222
1470 | 218 - 222
1480 | 220 - 224
1490 | 222 - 224
1500 | 224 - 226
1510 | 226

1520 | 228

S.I. | PSAT score range

190 | 1230 - 1330
192 | 1240 - 1340
194 | 1250 - 1350
196 | 1260 - 1360
198 | 1270 - 1370
200 | 1280 - 1380
202 | 1290 - 1390
204 | 1300 - 1400
206 | 1310 - 1410
208 | 1320 - 1420
210 | 1340 - 1430
212 | 1360 - 1440
214 | 1380 - 1450
216 | 1400 - 1460
218 | 1420 - 1470
220 | 1440 - 1480
222 | 1460 - 1490
224 | 1480 - 1500
226 | 1500 - 1510
228 | 1520

I still haven’t received my score sadly… The suspense is killin my brains

My friends si is 208. He wants to know if that wil be nmsf in Texas, and i said no. What are your guys thoughts

Im thinking 192+ is commended

@aron I don’t think last year’s report broke it out by tenths. I think my daughter’s report just showed 99th percentile like this years. My daughter had a 221 SI this year that converts to a 222 SI for last year based on the table. I also wonder how 221/228 is equivalent to 222/240. Last year she scored a 220 SI as a sophomore. I just have a feeling that the prelim concordance tables are not doing a good job at estimating the scores at least in the range that our kids are scoring.

@aron so i am not the only one who scored very high on old CR but just moderate on new CR (800 to 36)

The test felt a lot like the ACT because each section was out of 38. Maybe in a few years they will start averaging the score like ACT instead of this ridiculous method adding each section and multiplying by 2.

@jerzmaster Congrats, your daughter did a great job. Hope you are proud.
@Studious99 Yes, I think CR kicked a lot of high-scoring kids down a few points. Our daughter’s score had increased nicely from freshman to sophomore, and we hoped the same would happen this year. And along came the new test…

That totally bites @3scoutsmom mom!, Hugs!

Hey everyone! Congratulations to you all, you received such great scores! I got a 1480 with 221 selection index. I was wondering if you guys think that’s high enough to qualify for NM in Illinois. Thanks so much!

Thanks @aron, and yes I am very proud of my daughter. I told her I would buy her a laptop if she made NMSF… I hope to pay up in September. Common sense tells me that if a student scores 99%, 99%, and 98% in the 3 section that they are certainly in the 99% overall. I just think that your daughter and other students can’t rely on this odd preliminary conversion tool provided by the CB. CB doesn’t seem like they have this figured out yet…evidenced by the delayed score reports.

For anyone who hasn’t had their scores appear in their account but is sure they put down the right email, this is what worked for me and a couple of my friends (100% success rate):

  1. Go to add score page
  2. Click "update" as in update your information
  3. Edit something. This might include deleting something and replacing it with the same thing. I deleted my high school and added it again.
  4. Submit

Once you do this it should show your score.