@Fambruhghini why omit any since there’s no penalty for guessing? Did you run out of time?
Yes - Writing had harsh scoring - Reading was pretty generous as was math. must be taking into account how actual testers performed to come up with the curve and I noticed in the CB report a question in math was discarded bc not “scoreable” so it makes me think their percentiles should be based on real Oct. 2015 test-takers.
commended will be 194+
@Trinity2016 where do you find the historical percentages from year to year for texas? Is there a link that you can send me? Thanks
@3scoutsmom Yeah, just ran out of time on the math section. One was a fill in the blank, but I’m really kicking myself for leaving the other two- if I guessed right that could have given me a point or two more on the selection index, and I really need that in NJ
same here. No idea how to fix it.
I just noticed this posted on CB website:
https://lp.collegeboard.org/help-resources-accessing-scores
worth reading the info - GC’s might be able to glean more soon too.
For cutoff PSAT 2017, we may look at data without higher Math knowledge - simpler view
- look at page 3 of http://www.bernardsboe.com/UserFiles/Servers/Server_3096886/File/Jill%20Shadis/Ridge%20Counseling/Standardized%20Testing/Understanding%202014%20PSAT-NMSQT%20Scores.pdf.
We can see in the range 99%tile, 213 is the lowest and 223 is the highest end of range 99%tile. Specifically for Texas students, if one score in the upper third of this range - mean 220 (last year), that 80% one would get NMF.
- look at page 7 (Percentiles for total scores) of
https://collegereadiness.collegeboard.org/pdf/2015-psat-nmsqt-understanding-scores.pdf
We can ESTIMATE that if one score from 1410 to 1430 in Texas, that would be 80% make it NMSF
- Disclaimer: I am aware of scale change, conflicting of SI with total scores (posted in this CC by other posters). But an estimate is an estimate. Hopefully it is helpful to predict cutoff rate in you state
Base on msg #4075, I think https://2400expert.com/class-2017-national-merit-psat-cutoff-scores/, predict very close cutoff PSAT 2017 (standard dev of 20 or plus 20 or minus 20 of the projected)
Do you think a 224 will suffice for NMSF in Massachusetts?
@matterofdegree, you are at the lowest end of 99+%tile. Very good chance, I would say 80 to 90% make it to NMF But my estimate still is an estimate
@dallaspiano Thanks for your post… My daughter has 1430 and 212 SI so if you are correct and I REALLY hope you are, then she has a chance? We are in TX
matterofdegree, I hope you are not asking that seriously. Yes. 224 will be good for Mass, or anywhere else, especially with the new scoring scale. Now, will anyone above a 220 stop asking such questions please.
@matterofdegree, you are at the lowest end of 99+%tile of 2016 NMF. Very good chance, I would say 80 to 90% make it to NMF But if 224 for 2017 NMF, then you are at top end of 99+%tile then chance would be more than 90%. Happy?
@matterofdegree, you are at the lowest end of 99+%tile of 2016 NMF. Very good chance, I would say 80 to 90% make it to NMF But with 224 for 2017 NMF, you are at the top end of 99+%tile, would be more than 90%. A student with score like yourself (2014 or 2105) would understand msg 4075. Hope you are kidding that make others look bad
Freak3man85. You are exactly correct.
Not sure if anyone has posted this yet, but I thought it was interesting and might help the number crunchers here.
https://www.■■■■■■■■■■■■■■/blog/2016/01/14/can-you-trust-your-psat-score/
Number crunching. Heck no
If the bottom 99% was the low threshold (cutoff) for Colorado (at around 213 in the old test), and there are now people scoring 99% with a 205 and lower on the new test, than that tells you a lot. My guess is that Colorado will be about 205, or perhaps even less. It’s commonsense. And most people can probably extrapolate what that means for their own States by that knowledge. Unless they are totally scrambling up the thresholds of all or most of the States, which I doubt, we can expect a substantial drop in the threshold numbers for all States. That does not mean a drop in quality, it merely means a numerical drop to meet the new scale. Perhaps a drop by as much as 8 to 12 points. Sometimes the simplest answer is the correct answer.
@GABaseballMom Interesting read, but also disheartening. This predicts that cut-off scores will be very high.