Racist comments from a male senior, what should we do?

It sounds like this guy has a history of being a jerk. But, did he say it with a smirk on his face? Do you know the context of the comment? I think it’s much ado about nothing. The guy was trying to be funny. Guys are stupid. Don’t give him an audience.

@2muchquan I asked D and she said 99% of time when he makes a comment he means it

I would have your D report it to the HS administration. As others have said, it’s likely a violation of the school’s bullying/discrimination policy. My D is biracial and has reported racist language from other kids, including in one case, a “friend”. Usually the school has talked with the kids rather than impose any harsh discipline. This was when she was in younger grades.

In high school, I’ve heard of several kids speaking out against racist or sexist language, anti-gay comments, etc. The school tries to use the incidents as teachable moments if possible, though form one pretty nasty incident, the girl was suspended. As @doschicos said, if we don’t speak up, these things will continue to happen.

I’m going to take a stab that since D considered him a “friend” that maybe his comments were taken out of context and not meant to hurt her personally. She can talk or text him with the appropriate emoji.

AND EVEN IF he meant it as a personal insult–do you think it is a great use of personal energy to drive him into the ground for a statement? The purpose? What do you want to gain? How would it be any different from another thousand encounters with strangers who disagree with you on issues and are disagreeable humans while doing so?

There will always be those who don’t understand, see your point of view, etc.
And there are always two sides even if the other side seems totally off the wall.

It is more important to listen to those who don’t agree with you than those who do. If you don’t understand where the opposition is coming from you can’t either learn from it nor formulate good arguments to combat those views.

My daughters probably would have said something like “I’ll remember you said that when you come looking for a job from me.”

The thought police are strong in force on this thread. I am not supporting that what was said to the OP, but the idea of reporting this kid to the high school and college he is attending seems absurd.

@Zinhead I’m not allowing this to happen. H is a little protective toward D sometimes.

Easy to say when you are not the target of those types of comments. Go along and get along hasn’t really been working so well in our society… and if he never has any consequences, he will keep on doing it.

I do think he will get slammed at Pomona next year for that type of behavior. He may not enjoy his experience much… and that is probably okay.

It’s a “friend”? Tell him to knock it off. Why does everything have to become some big freaking deal? It’s just another student. Tell him he is ridiculous and move on. Whatever happened to just speaking up, instead of instituting some sort of proceedings every time someone is offended?

Trump won’t even be President, I suspect, much less be deporting everyone. We shall see.

Albert69 is right. Some people are just jerks, plain and simple.

Comments that can be construed as “bullying” or “racist” are a violation of most high school codes of conduct. If your D doesn’t feel like the comment fell under either category or if her school has no such behavior code, then she might consider doing nothing. If she was upset and her school has a code of conduct that she feels was violated, I would support her decision to report it.

I think at the end of the day the student should make the decision though, not the parent. Often it is the parent that is enraged but “it rolls off the kids back.”

@TranquilMind D has confronted him and he didn’t care. He said he will never get in trouble no matter what.

Like a certain politician who says he could shoot someone in the street and people will still vote for him. :frowning: That comment would make me MORE determined to report it.

Does daughter want to end her last few weeks of school fighting, in turmoil, maybe dividing the senior class? I think this is a smaller school (from OP’s other posts). It would become a ‘he said, she said’ battle. Did he say “I hope Trump wins and immigrants are all deported” or “I hope Trump wins and YOU are deported”? Even if the latter, is that bullying or just a misinformed 18 year old who doesn’t understand Trump’s position or the legal status and rights of minority citizen?

Every single thing said is not bullying. He’s entitled to his opinion even if wrong and even if it hurts her feelings. He’s not entitled to intimidate her or threaten her with deportation. There is a different standard for a couple of 8 year olds and those heading for college.

@twoinanddone I agree. I don’t think it’s a big deal. I just wanted to make sure my reaction is correct when H was seeing it differently

She could take it up with her HS counselor and see what s/he says, if she is upset about it (and it sounds like she is).

^ My impression is that this is college.

My impression is that they are both seniors in high school attending “top LAC’s” in the Fall.

Whether you were born in the US, are a citizen or permanent resident, or are here illegally doesn’t matter. You don’t deserve racist comments. No one does, because racism is straight up evil.

The Constitutionally guaranteed right to free speech protects the guy who made the remark, but if he has a demonstrated pattern of racially-based remarks, then that could be considered harassment, which is illegal.

In either case, your daughter should tell the boy (and no, he’s not a friend) in front of a teacher that his remarks were hurtful and offensive and that he needs to stop. The important thing is that she has a witness in a position of authority. She should also tell her friends that the boy made the remark and that she asked him to stop. This will put them on their guard as well.

If he continues to be a jerk, she may have a harassment case to pursue with the administration. But in the meantime, let’s hope her friends exercise their free speech rights by telling the guy off and shunning him.

I am not defending the guy in any way - even though as someone has pointed out, we don’t know what really happened, he may have been expressing a general sentiment and your daughter took it personally. In the end, it doesn’t matter whether he is a jerk or a fool. What matters is how your daughter feels about it. If she reports it - to the administration, or the LAC, or wherever, she will most likely feel like a victim who cannot defend herself and needs others - such as HS administration or the LAC to stand up to the bully for her - or rather, instead of her. If on the other hand she confronts him peacefully, it would only empower her as an activist fighting on behalf of people she wants to protect, i.e. illegal immigrants. She doesn’t even have to make it personal with him and tell him that his statements are offensive to “undocumented” kids in their school (and she doesn’t fit that category) and remind him that citizenship at this age, just like skin color, is nothing kids can control. This senior hasn’t “earned” his citizenship, either, he was simply born into it. While it would be a great lesson for him (if he listens, which I doubt), I still think your daughter would benefit more as she would be in control by talking to him directly.