Unless they have IDs that say otherwise. And not the IDs of old which you borrowed from your older cousin who kinda looks like you. Ones, as advertised, that are made with the same printers on the same paper and laminating machines as DMVs use. Can’t tell them from real. And at least one provider includes 2 per order so you won’t miss out on weekend fun if one gets taken away. Talking with college kids and their parents (from schools across the country), sounds like they are very popular (including at the darlings of this site). But to be clear, not condoning it at all. Just saying that I hear rumors they are pretty common.
I have witnessed a lot of college drinking in my day. Maybe even had a couple myself. And talked with a lot of people who did the same. None of that drinking involved or was in the presence of athletes. But maybe the athletes drank more.
I would expect that the reduction in the number of kids who are otherwise inclined to drink/party who won’t do so if there are no upperclassmen or athletes on campus will approach being a rounding error. Groups of 18-22 year olds living on their own, away from watchful eyes of mom and dad and who often have a lot of free time will tend to produce some drinkers/parties. But if it makes parents feel better, have at it.
I would think the college would be happy to give him this option. I hope many that want to do this are allowed to do it and let the schools know as I imagine it might help them plan for the return of those that choose to be on campus.
Those particular restriction will likely only be that harsh for indoors. I am assuming that the dorms and wider campus have plenty of benches and parks outside where people will be allowed to sit and chat and eat their packed food as long as they are socially distanced.
People are social creatures and can adapt. The Italians had sing alongs from their balconies. neighbours held street parties. College students will find ways to have fun.
The drinking age in this country is ridiculous, but that is off topic.
I certainly can see freshman having dorm parties, but I tend to agree that drinking will be more difficult (not impossible) without cars and upperclassmen. But kids will get together socially - which is fine, as long as they all stay on campus and away from the profs/staff (once everyone has been tested).
I am right there with you on the pessimism bandwagon, as evidenced by my post #37 in the COVID thread in March.
“The nice part about being a pessimist is that you are constantly being either proven right or pleasantly surprised.” ~George Will
I will also note that some of the same people that are now lauding Bowdoin’s plan as thoughful and sensible were decrying substantially equivalent plans by some of the HYPSM as impotent and uncaring (not saying it was you, to be clear).
Bad news for Amherst: “We are doing everything possible to prepare the campus for as many students as we believe it is wise to bring. At this point, we do not believe we will be able to bring to campus all the students who have indicated a desire to be here, given our intergenerational community, the ease with which the COVID-19 virus is transmitted, and the fact that it is transmitted by asymptomatic and pre-symptomatic individuals… In order to implement the steps deemed by public health experts to be necessary or advisable to reduce risk of spread, we will almost certainly have to limit the numbers.”
As a rising sophomore, it looks like a may be taking a gap semester/year, depending on what they decide. Luckily, they reaffirmed that those who take a leave will be able to return whenever they want.
Again, I’m really surprised these small LAC, with huge endowments, in relatively tiny college towns cannot figure a way to house all of the students in singles and overflow doubles as needed?
If you asked me a month ago, I would have said if any college could make it work in the fall, it would be the small LAC. Seems the opposite is true, for at least some of the large, public universities who are planning on bringing everyone back to campus.
Would love to be a fly on the wall in these admin meetings to get the real scope on why they are taking these, what I consider, very conservative approaches to students and faculty on campus.
The more “open” the college plan, the more likely it is to be changed. We keep saying on this thread, “don’t count on coming back to campus; pay attention to the uncertain language in the letters”. This shouldn’t keep being a surprise.
It would be so nice if those who dont want to be on campus inform the school as promptly as practicable to help create more room for those who do. That way everyone will be happy in their desired outcome.