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<p>My school doesn’t do AP Lit, only the Math and Science APs. </p>

<p>Check out Bras Basah for cheap used books</p>

<p>Pixeljig: Oedipus Rex and the KJV Bible should all be online if you want to read them from there first.</p>

<p>when we apply, do we have to provide an explanation of how our system (A level) is like?
I mean, for example, what h1, h2, h3 are?</p>

<p>^ dunnid la… there’s so many singaporean students applying to US</p>

<p>hi guys if u remb me, the pathetic sajc student :D</p>

<p>I just received my sat II, 2350/2400</p>

<p>math - 770
chem -780
phy - 800</p>

<p>hmm, should i retake math and chem to get perfect?</p>

<p>I’m going to kick you just for suggesting it.</p>

<p>Your scores are perfect, go write your essays already.</p>

<p>^ Actually I am not so sure about that - especially if you took the same tests as what you are studying for A-levels. I’ve seen so many of my friends/classmates get 2400s for the SAT IIs that I am starting to think eyebrows might be raised if you scored less than a 3x 800s at the Ivies and all.</p>

<p>omg…really sigh. :(</p>

<p>But my sat I really cmi, i want to get at least 2200 for my sat I, any books to recommend?</p>

<p>Math - 800
Critical Reading - 600
Writing - 520</p>

<p>These are my scores…my writing and reading needs to be improved!</p>

<p>collegeboard blue book, princeton review, kaplan, barron’s, mcgraw… basically if you have the time you should practise all the books you can lay your hands on.
my prc scholar friend practised like 10 books and got 2400. serious.</p>

<p>omg your math!!!
DAMN FRKN GOOD PLZ my math is my weakest. D: D:</p>

<p>Just got my June SAT score … got 750 for Bio M ):
It was #)($)#(* studying for it cos I’m an Arts students who no longer does Biology. Will be taking Math II and Lit next time.
Assuming I’m aiming for Berkeley/ Chicago, Reach U Penn/ Cornell, will that kill my chances? Should I retake? ):
Advice please!! D: I"m desperate!
Is self-studying a language very difficult? Apparently it’s difficult to score on Lit.</p>

<p>^my friend thought she screwed the lit, she got 760. um for arts students i think that you shld be okay? cos another friend took it and she got 770. oh and we all take lit? dno if it helps.</p>

<p>DON’T RETAKE THE SAT II… i think you did pretty good.</p>

<p>^ If you are not doing Biology for A-levels, then I’d say that’s a good score.</p>

<p>For every SAT score, there is a range provided. Even if you get 750-60, your upper range will hit 790-800. You have already proven you are capable academically. I wouldn’t retake a score that’s 740 or above.</p>

<p>For SAT I, my friends and I only used the blue CollegeBoard book, and i’d advise everyone to do the same. Seriously, if you can take ALL the tests that’re inside that book, u’re good to go IMO. (If you have time to spare, do them all over again) Plus it does help a great deal that the sample tests are from actual tests, whereas the popular belief is that Barrons is harder and Kaplan easier than actual tests. Why would you want to waste time practicing on stuff that isn’t like the real thing anyway?</p>

<p>For SAT II, i think >700 is fine. Don’t retake a 780/770 because its lame. I took 3 tests w/o studying (M2 M1 C) once and didn’t get a single 800 LOL (respective scores 780 760 740). Took Physics twice because 1st score was <650 :frowning: My H1 syllabus didnt cover more than half of the paper and i didn’t study. The second time i crammed all the new knowledge in a night and got a 730. I was so relieved! :smiley: Yeah but i was never a sciency student so it wasn’t important for me to get crazy SATII scores. Took Math Chem Physics History for A level.</p>

<p>If i could do it again i’d take M2 Ch Lit and US History. At least i’d have fun studying for the last two. Physics was torture. Hated the subject in school and hated the paper. I only took it in January of my JC2 year because all of my seniors in school did and i didn’t know i could change the subject for free. In retrospect it was time wasted because i have no intention of doing sciences in college.</p>

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i a w t c!</p>

<p>Do you know that an army of HC and RJ peeps get 2400 for their three Subject Tests each year? I could fight a small war with them. Go retake if you wanna aim for HYPSM etc.</p>

<p>If you’re a born-and-bred Singaporean, you’ll be pitted against the rest of the 2400-scoring born-and-bred Singaporeans. You can’t benchmark yourself against confused_vnese, because she wasn’t directly competing against them.</p>

<p>And regarding the range theory, sure your score might be “in range of” 800. And if you extrapolate this using the theory, you could go on infinite regress until you get to the conclusion that a score of 0 also equals 800. Great, nobody needs to take the SAT anymore! everyone gets a 800. Face it, there is a difference between every score. Even if the range theory is valid, to the admission officer who is more likely to be 800-level - the applicant who actually got 800, or some dude who got 770? Remember the colleges can fill their Singaporean quota many times over with people who have SAT 800. It might not have a significant impact, but given your circumstances, do you really wanna take a chance?</p>

<p>But BrilliantMinds, before you retake your SAT IIs you should focus on pulling up your SAT I first. It’s quite a long way for putting you in contention. Unfortunately language skills aren’t something that could be vastly improved in a matter of months. Your best bet is to learn to beat the test. Luckily for you, there is a guy who scored 2400 and devised exactly a way to do that. He’ll be back in Singapore in July 2009. Here is the website: [SAT</a> 2400 for Singapore](<a href=“http://sat2400.blogspot.com/]SAT”>http://sat2400.blogspot.com/)</p>

<p>I maintain that a different of around 50 points, isn’t significant. The range has nothing to do with infinite regression. It just has to do with the fact that test conditions are variable. The entire point of the SATs is to prove that you are academically capable, and a score of 740+ (depends on individual test), proves that already. To retake for those few points would only reflect score-craziness and desperation. You have already done damn well. Check the ranges for each test before retaking.</p>

<p>I am inclined toward the view that SATs are used to get you through the first door, after which, they are forgotten, and other things, such as ECs and essays matter way, way more. This is especially true about SAT IIs. SAT Is are usually public statistics which colleges may want to polish. Admissions is an art, and each candidate is qualitatively different–you aren’t going to get two people who only differ on SAT scores. Go write a brilliant essay, that’s worth much more than a few crummy points.</p>

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<p>Really? so 750/750/750 roughly = 800/800/800? 2250 roughly = 2400? Which applicant would you rather take a chance on? </p>

<p>Sure, test conditions are variable. That’s why they give a 50 point range, you say. So if you have an applicant A who submits a score of 750, you would say he could have been 800 material on a better day, based on the score of 750 that you see. Maybe he is 800 material who got 750 cos it was a bad day. But he could ALSO, with equal probability, be someone who is really 700 material but got 750 cos it was an exceedingly good day. There’s no reason to assume he’s 800 just because it makes him feel better about his chances. </p>

<p>Even if you say that colleges would give the benefit of the doubt and take a 750 applicant as an 800, when you are faced with an actual 800, who would you put your money on? On the other hand, in the worst case scenario, saying a 750 could have been an 800 is pure guesswork and he could in fact be a 700 guy - the other actually got 800 and at the VERY LEAST is a 750 guy. So your range theory fails to help our friend here. Too. Even though he has his own range of ±50 variable scores, people who got 800 have a still higher range of variable scores in the eyes of the admission officers.</p>

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<p>Myth. There is no reason to distrust colleges when they say they look only at highest scores and not number of times you take it. Even if they were lying, they may also interpret this as dedication and not an obsession. If you’re such an advocate of the idea that colleges give applicants the benefit of the doubt, why don’t colleges continue giving it to them here?</p>

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<p>American-style PCness works to console people on CC but doesn’t raise your chances of admission.</p>

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<p>I agree they may be used as a first door. There’s some evidence for this, seeing that the classes compiled by top colleges do tend to show a pattern of consistent cut-off scores. But there is no reason or evidence at ALL to assume that SATs are not considered anymore after that. If they have your SAT scores in their possession, the most logical and straightforward assertion is that they use the SAT scores throughout the process. I do agree that SAT scores are but a very small part of the process. But this doesn’t mean they have NO effect. If money can buy you even a marginally higher chance at your dream college, it’d be asinine not to spend that money.</p>

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<p>No reason to assume that SATs come into play only when you get to otherwise equal applicants. And I thought you said that SATs are forgotten after the first door? Gosh, is there a second door? How many doors are there?! Could this be… a whole doorway!!!</p>

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<p>False dichotomy. You can write a brilliant essay AND prepare for the SATs. And honestly, how much time do you need to invest to raise a SAT Subject Test score by 30 points? Especially when you’re studying almost the exact same thing for your main A levels?!</p>