Update: We called SJSU and they said that his EI was in the 4600 range (can’t remember the exact number). They would have calculated it as that if they were using his unweighted GPA of 3.98.
Does anyone know if SJSU uses the Cal State GPA or if they have a different way of calculating the GPAs? My son took several courses at community college which would give him the weighted GPA of 4.31.
@clof2024: The CSU’s cap the # of honors point for the weighted capped CSU GPA at 8 semesters so his Unwieghted is 3.98 and he had 8 semester of honors points for 10-11th grades including the CC courses?
SJSU will use the Capped Weighted CSU GPA in the EI calculation.
Thanks @Jojola and @Gumbymom for your replies. I double checked the Calstate Apply website and the “A-G matching” page where his GPA is showing as 4.31 (this includes the community college classes he has taken). I confirmed his SAT scores were reported correctly.
The only way they would have calculated a 4600 something EI is if they calculated his GPA as a 3.98 (which would be accurate if they ignored his CC courses). We might call them and try to figure out how they calculated the GPA for the EI. Will update what we find out.
Further Update: We spoke to the admissions office and were told that his EI had been calculated as 4690, which is a with a 4.0 GPA and 1490 SAT score.
I was told that they do not simply use the CalState GPA but calculate the GPA again for their impacted programs. They did not enter any of his community college courses because they were not shown in the high school coursework section. The community college classes are in a separate section on the CalState Apply form, just under Standardized Tests.
I think the system is broken. Basically, if he had AP courses that were listed in the high school coursework section, the decision would have been different.
We have been asked to file an appeal and should find out within 3 weeks.
If there is anyone else out there with community college course credits, please be aware that they were probably not included in the weighted GPA calculation at SJSU would result in an incorrect calculation of the EI.
@clof2024: Thank you for the update and find it a ridiculous that CSU transferable CC classes are not considered in the CSU GPA calculation.
On the CSU website for calculating the GPA it states;
** College courses used to meet CSU “a-g” requirements can also result in honors points. But no more than eight honors points may be awarded. A semester grade in a college course should be counted twice. For example, if you earned a B in a biology course at a community college, you would count this B grade twice in your GPA calculation.
@Gumbymom: Just to clarify, the CSU GPA did include the community college classes. His CSU GPA is 4.31
SJSU is not using the CSU GPA to calculate the EI. They recalculate the GPA for some reason and are only including the high school coursework from 10th and 11th grade that is self reported on the Cal State Apply. So, SJSU calculated his GPA as 4.0 and ignored the CC classes that were listed in a different section but taken during the same timeframe.
@Gumbymom: SJSU said that they only included coursework in the “High School Coursework” section of the CalState Application. Since his community college courses were listed in the “Colleges Attended” section, they ignored those.
I think that it’s an oversight on their part to not look at the community colleges courses and include it in their calculation of the GPA, especially since CalState is already including them. Unfortunately, there is no way of fixing this oversight without us going through the appeal process.
@clof2024 My understanding is that the CSU GPA does nit include CCC course. If the class was a dual enrolment, it should be possible that the credit was on the dual side and it is included in the high school GPA. but in other case including a concurrent enrollment, high school might not give a credit for the class. when your son apply the college class, wasn’t there the information in the paperwork about the credit.
@gyungoh: The CSU GPA does include CC courses as long as the CC courses meet “a-g” requirements. They will cap it at 8 honors points.
My son’s CSU GPA is 4.31 because CSU included his community college courses.
His high school is also giving him credit for the dual enrolled courses that he took.
When we were filling out the CalState Apply form, we entered only his high school courses in the “High School Coursework” section and then added his community college courses in the “Colleges Attended” section. The problem lies when SJSU recalculated the GPA, they only entered the courses in the “High School Coursework” section, hence arriving at a 4.0 GPA for him.
They ignored all the community college courses which I believe is a mistake and an oversight with the way they are recalculating the SJSU GPAs to determine the EI.
@Gumbymom DS did not get in to CS. DS EI is 4810 (SAT 1570 and CSU GPA 4.05) compared to 4825 cut-off. What are the chances with appeal? Just wanted to try although he has 3 other UCs in hand so far.
@orugallu: What would be the basis for the appeal since the EI threshold is not met?
For appeals to be valid, it must bring to light new academic information not in the original application. I try not to discourage anyone from appealing, but be aware they are rarely granted unless there is a mistake made by SJSU either a clerical error or an administrative error.
Just to consider his AP, SAT subject scores, EC and the rigorous corse work instead of just seeing the GPA numbers
Also any consideration for just below the EI (4825 Vs 4810)? even engg EI calculation would have got him 4825 (which I was following all the time before getting the denial shock).
BTW, I am sure some accepted kids would not attend (I know few kids already). don’t they have any waitlist or how they are going to fill in those slots?
@orugallu: SJSU only considers GPA, test scores (SAT/ACT), HS course rigor (AP classes), Geographic location (local vs. non-local) and State residency. SAT subject test scores and EC’s are not a consideration in their application review.
Again, there is no harm in appealing if he feels strongly that the decision is in error. Also SJSU does recalculate the GPA based on their criteria according to another poster which disagrees about their students decision (another denied CS major). See Post #71
Schools do have an idea of their yield and accept far more applicants than spots available.