Please show me how violent crime statistics are skewed.
Snopes grew out of academic urban-folklore studies, understanding how urban myths developed and spread - rats in the sewer, razor blades in your Halloween candy, etc.
When someone claims Snopes is a political site with an agenda, they are so far down the rabbit hole of paranoia and conspiracy that they aren’t really worth paying attention to.
“When someone claims Snopes is a political site with an agenda, they are so far down the rabbit hole of paranoia and conspiracy that they aren’t really worth paying attention to.”
ummm—yes snopes has become a political site. when they started back in the day talking about is it true they use horse bones in jello that was one thing. (and even than they got a few things wrong) for a long time now they have their political agenda stuff and it is of zero value(feel free to read it just do not hold it up as the gospel). to claim that snopes is not an agenda driven website… when it comes to politics is a person way down the rabbit whole. and I will take the high road on the rest and not degrade you like you did me. (god forbid someone does not agree with you)
Just last night my very own mother posted something on FB (not about this topic) and I called her and told her that it was not a reputable link. Sources are very important, zobroward. Otherwise we are all just making up stuff. The NYT and the WSJ may have different editorial opinions but they are both reputable and fact based.
If you care to show any facts which refute what Snopes has said regarding the Conservative Tree House article have at it - or anything corroborating The Conservative TreeHouse’s article is factual - besides articles using what The Conservative Treehouse has put forth.
the NYT has an agenda even in it’s stories.(do they even pretend otherwise) and also picks stories to ignore or play up too.
not to mention the guy they hired ,fast tracked and ignored what he was doing for diversity reasons.(only after they got exposed/ embarrassed did they correct that one problem)
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/05/public-editor/repairing-the-credibility-cracks-after-jayson-blair.html?_r=0
If black people are proportionally targeted more for rigorous policing, then naturally more black people than white will be reported as having committed a crime.
Let’s say two people - one black and one white - have cocaine and heroin in their cars. Because the black driver is more likely to be stopped than the white driver, there is a higher chance of the black person being found out and arrested for possession than the wbite person. The black person gets added to the statistics, while the white person doesn’t. Also, a lot of these statistics have notable limitations:
Of course black people are on record for committing “more crime” if they’re arrested more.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_the_United_States
look greenwitch you are free to read the NYT or snopes and like what you see and read. but that does not translate into other people needing to agree with you that they are legit sources.
at just an fyi tatinG sited the conservative tree house …they were spot on with michael brown and it’s outcome via their in depth reporting months before it played out and so far they have been 100% spot on with the freddie gray case…way in advance…a year out. including their reporting on the very controversial prosecutor in that case and whether she will be disbarred or charged herself. (that seems to be the next step in that case)so yes they do great work and you may not like what they have to say but that does not make them not an incredible source for accurate in depth info ignored by the NYT or MSNBC, CNN etc…
You mean they were “spot on” that the cops would be acquitted? Heck, I have a better chance of winning the lottery than seeing those cops convicted.
no worries infinty man…this will help sum it up for you and you will be very happy with the outcome.
http://nypost.com/2016/07/09/how-the-ferguson-effect-is-destroying-chicago/
I love how it’s applauded for someone to suggest that there is so much racism that the official data on crime is irrelevant, and go to anecdotes for proof. Yet disagreeing with one source is labeled “paranoid.”
Here’s the FBI website for some hard numbers - I think we can agree that it is at least politically unbiased, at this level at least? https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded-homicide/expanded_homicide_data_table_6_murder_race_and_sex_of_vicitm_by_race_and_sex_of_offender_2013.xls
“You mean they were “spot on” that the cops would be acquitted? Heck, I have a better chance of winning the lottery than seeing those cops convicted.”
um like the actual “evidence” was bogus, info illegally with held etc…michael brown and the hands up myth. exposing the video of michael brown assaulting the shop keeper minutes before he attacked the policeman …before any news organization dared showed it. in depth reporting on dozens of aspects on freddie gray, their families, the other players in the case.but hey just belittle the treehouse.
freddie gray case is 100% political as was the michael brown case.
p.s. the reason they are getting acquitted is because they are innocent…imagine that. a rogue prosecutor with an agenda …which I am sure that is ok in your book. (when I saw her give that creepy speech on the stairs of the courthouse or wherever…I was shaking my head)
katilamom that is so over the top but …hey I say to that absurd statement—look in the mirror! no point in having a different opinion from someone like you or disagreeing with you…because when people say such ignorant stuff like you just did…it is pointless.
if you are referring to me with that silliness I feel sorry for you because you have no ability to accept that people have a different point of view and that is ok and than you have a need to belittle them . that is not very adult like.
Any chance you guys could get back on topic??? :((
2014 homicide statistics broken down by race & sex reported by the FBI, not by the news media
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@zobroaward I have no idea what you’re talking about. Why would I be happy with increased violence in Chicago? What are you trying to say? And it’s either let them behave with racist impunity, or have them not do their jobs at all?
Thanks, @skieurope. Guess big brother is watching (
) or someone reported the off topic conversation (was not me). The discussion of what is considered a reputable source is a reasonable one. Perhaps someone can start another thread on this topic. Reminds me of the “I saw it on the internet so it must be true” Facebook page.
That is one strange chart in #295. Of the 3949 men murdered in 2014, the sex and race of the murderer is unknown (I assume the case isn’t solved) in 80 cases, but the ethnicity (hispanic or not) of the murderer isn’t known for 1921 cases? And so it goes…