https://www.yahoo.com/news/minnesota-police-response-fatal-shooting-appears-excessive-governor-203050005.html They are, NoVA.
Praying this stuff doesn’t lead to further unrest or bigger problems . . . it feels like people are polarizing very strongly to one side or the other.
So much could be solved if we would just love our neighbor as ourselves.
Police officers want to go home to their families like everyone else. Minorities and historically oppressed people want to navigate through society just like everyone else too. I do believe that it is different to drive a car while African American. If I had an AA son I would be worried much of the time.
We have to resist fear, anger and hate, on both sides. It clouds our discernment.
I never like to say much about this stuff because I know I only have my limited perspective. But I do pray for wisdom for our communities and country.
It’s also a classic form of rhetorical diversion to divert and discourage discussion of issues affecting/concerning marginalized groups in our and other societies.
Not very different, for instance, than say… White Confederates sympathizers/supremacists in past and recent history who attempt to divert/suppress discussion about the legacy of Black enslavement and racism against other racial/religious minorities by citing their examples of “victimization” such as Reconstruction*, the historically specious conflation of White indentured servitude in colonial/early American history with Black enslavement, or the “suppression of their rights as White people”.
Incidentally, this form of rhetorical diversion isn’t accepted in the debating class I took in HS or many formally organized debates. My debate teacher would call out students who did this during weekly debates on assigned and punitively deduct points for such debates and “not focusing enough on the assigned topic”.
- Very ironic considering how when one compares how losing sides in most civil wars throughout history were treated, Southern Whites who fought/sympathized with the Confederacy were given the gingerly kid glove treatment by the victorious Federal government.
“The comments on Twitter from BLM sympathizers is just vile. Their leaders and national leaders need to speak out to tamp down this hate against innocent officers.”
@@ As if there aren’t horrible comments on Twitter about the Castile / Sterling shootings suggesting that they deserved it because what’s another black person.
As if 2 wrongs (or by his point more like 2000) make a right.
No one on this board is defending calls for attacks against, or hatred for, all LEO’s, Albert. It is possible both to respect the difficult job that LEO’s have to do, AND to also desire that they think carefully about their procedures so that broken-taillight-when-black doesn’t turn into a death scene.
One of the reasons why the Minnesota governor’s remarks is newsworthy is the fact his citing the fact the incident was racially motivated is one seldom uttered by most politicians.
In most cases, politicians either issue neutral non-committal statements and/or jump on the “we stand with our police force” in a tone which is often heard in marginalized communities with much experience of police brutality/excesses like that as “we stand with our police: right or wrong”.
I would also not be surprised if the Minnesota governor has already received/will start receiving angry responses from LEO groups and sympathizers for “not supporting them enough” and “throwing them under the bus” by those very remarks.
On another site, I saw a link to the shooter’s alleged FB page. He appears to have aligned himself with a group called “Black Power,” which has allegedly taken credit for this incident. I don’t know how credible any of this is. I’m waiting to see if any of this appears on MSM. So currently I’d say this falls into the category of rumor for now.
So much for the media not giving publicity to shooters.
Twitter should take down these calls for assassination of police officers. There are also calls for riots. Someone who potential rioters will listen too needs to step up and condemn all of this.
Tatin. There is lots of ugliness on Twitter. The White Supremacy community is all over that, calling for all kinds of horrible things to happen to Jews, blacks, and anyone else they don’t like. I don’t know how it would be enforceable, sadly.
Twitter and Facebook can take down any post at any time.
Agreed. However, I don’t know how you’d systematically clean up that dreck.
I come at this still remembering how when the Rodney King verdict came out, the mayor of LA, did not call for calm. The riots killed 60 some people and whole neighborhoods burned. I thought at the time that the mayor expressing his outrage at the verdict was inflammatory.
In terms of taking down noxious posts, Facebook and Twitter probably do not have the army of censors that, say, the PRC government has (and even the latter does not quickly catch everything that is does not like).
FWIW, at first I couldn’t decide if this incident was a race thing or a police thing. Our police force is 45% or more people of color, so I was leaning towards it being a “police thing.” But it’s looking more like a race relations incident.
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Do you happen to have someone in mind, TatinG?
“In terms of taking down noxious posts, Facebook and Twitter probably do not have the army of censors that, say, the PRC government has (and even the latter does not quickly catch everything that is does not like).”
“Probably”? You’re so cautious to hedge all your bets all the time. Yeah, I think “probably” Facebook doesn’t have the army of censors that China does. In other news, the sun “probably” will rise in the east tomorrow.
“The comments on Twitter from BLM sympathizers is just vile. Their leaders and national leaders need to speak out to tamp down this hate against innocent officers.”
“This is now war. Watch out Obama. Watch out black lives matter punks. Real America is coming after you,” he wrote in the post, which has since been deleted."
Comment on Twitter from former Rep. Joe Walsh on the Dallas shootings.
It’s interesting to listen to one of the organizers of the protest last night, a white minister. The rally and protest were peaceful and non-violent. The protesters, the organizers, and the police officers were talking and discussing peaceful protest. At the end of the march, at the courthouse, and after speakers had spoken, when dispersing, the shooting began.
The shooter apparently had nothing to do with the rally or march. It is being reported that he is a veteran who served in Afghanistan.
You’ve got the cart before the horse.
From the news reports I remembered from the Rodney King verdict and other related incidents right beforehand, the anger which motivated the riot was already brewing to the brink of exploding into a riot. The Rodney King verdict was just the last straw in a string of grievances about brutality, racism, and excesses by the LAPD going back at least a few decades.
It didn’t help that the trial of the LAPD officers involved was moved 30 miles away to a White majority suburb of Simi Valley widely known for being favorably disposed to cops and conservative politics.
Thus, it’s no surprise that to many LA area folks…especially those from communities which experienced excesses, racism, and brutality from the LAPD, the entire trial/jury was set up to acquit the LAPD officers involved in the violent beating of Rodney King.
And that was well before more problematic issues regarding the LAPD were revealed such as the Rampart scandal in the late '90s.
In light of all that, the mayor of LA was only expressing what many of his constituents were thinking at the time.