TAMU Class of 2023 - Admission Decisions/Discussion

@BlueBayouAZ

My son’s school is actually still mostly white, but the top 10% is probably the most diverse group. Asians make up the largest minority group by far, followed by Hispanic, then Black (non-Hispanic), and then an extremely small group of other non-black minorities. There are certainly kids that are hyper focused on academics, and probably rank (not so much for the top 10%, but more to be one of the top two students, period, seems to be the biggest deal in our school). Still, these kids are high achievers in more areas than just academics. I’ve not run into any academically ambitious and/or high performing kids who just sat around doing nothing but hording grades for the purposes of getting into UT or A&M. I can’t even imagine the teachers in my son’s school being complicit with grade grubbing, because it is made clear, right up front, every year, for every class-- students are not allowed to ask for grade boosts, and teachers are not allowed to give them. They have very strict guidelines on re-work, and extra credit (when/if/whom it can be given to, and under what circumstances). And, the standard of performance is high, so we don’t have 50% of the kids with 4.0 unweighted GPAs. It’s HARD to get all "A"s or even mostly As in my son’s school. Not impossible, but you’re definitely going to work for it. We don’t even have 10% with 4.0s. Come to think of it, we don’t have 2.5% with 4.0s. They use weighted GPAs to calculate rank, so the kids who take the greatest risks, and the highest rigor, get the greatest rewards with regard to rank.

But, I can’t possibly have personal knowledge of the academic + extracurricular credentials of the top 10%, let alone other 700+ kids. What I do know is that when I read the newsletters, and go to banquets, and other school events, I hear about so many amazing things that these kids are up to. Not all of them are into in-school ECs. I personally know of a couple of kids who have major (and very impressive) ECs that they pursue independent of school. I know this, because I know their parents (they live in my community), and these quiet, unassuming top 10%ers are most definitely not resting on their laurels! I could see how someone who wasn’t intimately familiar with them might think that they did nothing but study, and horde grades. But, considering that most very high achievers apply to more than just UT and TAMU, and (even if they did) they frequently want to see merit awards, and want to demonstrate the aptitude and direction to gain them admission to their first choice major, I can say, with no reservation, the the group of students sitting around grade grubbing then twiddling their thumbs is a truly rare and exceptional breed of student.

Agreed! And, most high achieving kids who aspire to college want the “most rigorous courses available” box checked. So,it would certainly behoove them to select weighted classes, and to be smart enough to know that making all of the Texas Publics academic safeties (financial safety is a whole other ball of wax), at least, is a smart play. My son thrives on challenges. He doesn’t want the easy route, he’s always wanting to feel like he’s conquering something, and striving. He doesn’t achieve high to get higher in rank. He achieves high, because it’s who he is. The rank is the spoils of battle, so to speak.

@52AG82 & @BlueBayouAZ

I think so too! :smile: I think our 3 kids are cut from would absolutely become fast friends!

@brichey congrats on the appeal decisions!
I have to ask tho, am I missing something? Are you a student at a Century Scholar school? First gen college student? Based on the many scores people have posted, we have seen others with much higher rank and test scores, who were only offered PSA.
Help me out here, @Thelma2

@BarbieK

They do still matter very much. I don’t think that things have changed nearly as much as you’re envisioning. Top 6/10%ers don’t want to gain admission just to say they gained admission.

They want their first choice majors. While it’s first come/first serve at TAMU, that’s definitely not the case at all colleges

They may want to gain admission to honors colleges.
https://catalog.tamu.edu/undergraduate/honors-undergraduate-research/

They most assuredly want merit awards, because seriously… who doesn’t want someone else to pay a chunk of the college bill?!? A lot of scholarships require more than just grades and test scores. TAMU scholarships do too. Admission to the university is only the first step. This is what TAMU says about academic merit scholarships:

http://scholarships.tamu.edu/FRESHMEN/University-Scholarships#0-AcademicScholarships

I’ll go out on a limb and say that most of the high achieving students in Texas (as well as their families/support system) are invested in gaining access to the the best offer available, not just “admitted”.

@52AG82 I should have just kept reading. You already said this!

@52AG82 me and my twin both are first gen college students but we are OOS so no century scholar school. I do have a theory as to why we got into the school, but it’s only a theory and whatever the reason is, I’m excited to prove to I deserve to be an Aggie and will fight for my spot.

@52AG82 I would also like to add that the reason we were displaced in the first place was because of Harvey and had we stayed in Texas i would’ve been in the top 3% of my class which I also explained in my original essay from the first application.

@brichey thanks for the reply! That’s exciting for y’all! Our high school was heavily affected by Harvey (600 identified families flooded, so easily 800+ kids)…we know Harvey all too well ?
Bummer you’ll have the OOS tuition, but hopefully you can make it work!

@brichey : Good luck! I am so happy that you and your twin have the opportunity to return to TX and be Aggies! Y’all have gone through a lot, I am sure.

I am glad that you and your twin will have each other to lean on as you navigate your Freshman year, but please also find small groups to belong to, the TAMU campus is HUGE! You need both academics and a social life to grow to your full potential. Balancing your academic and social life depends on managing your time wisely. Too much of either isn’t a good thing.

Don’t overload your schedule for your first Semester. Give yourself some adjustment time, you will experience a lot of things for the first time.

Moving schools might have created some gaps in your courses and college classes (for the most part) are all a LOT harder than any AP or DC class that you have taken in HS. DO NOT REMAIN QUIET IF YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND SOMETHING. Speak up! If YOU have a question, I can guarantee that there is at least one other person in the class who also doesn’t understand but is too shy to speak up. Do not wait until after the first quiz or test. Ask questions often. Find out when the prof has office hours, see if a study group can be formed, see if there are Grad students who can help or go to one of the tutoring places if you can. Plan study times into your schedule for each class. Review new info. Everybody experiences ups and downs, that is part of life and it is how one grows. Never be afraid to seek help, and offer help to others when you can.

I hope that when your Freshman year ends that you and your twin can say that it was THE. BEST. YEAR. EVER!

@AggieMomhelp thank you for the information, I’ll be try to be as open as possible and speak when I need help. There are a few gaps of things we missed which is why I’ll be taking classes over the summer , to prepare for college or at least keep my brain in the mindset of school.

@brichey That’s awesome congrats! I hope I’ll see you around cstat this fall!

Is there a risk of spots filling up for the Impact Camp? Or will they register as many kids who want to go until the registration deadline?

I have never heard of impact camp being full.

Great news!! My son’s appeal was granted today! He was given full admission! We are all crying happy tears!

@Aggie1998: WHOOP!! :slight_smile: CONGRATULATIONS!!! That is FANTASTIC NEWS!!

When you get a minute, could you please post your son’s stats, original admissions offer and a little info on what was included in the appeal? This will help students in future admissions cycles. The admissions process for the Fall 2019 group was brutal, I can’t imagine what it will be like next year, much less in the very distant future when our grandchildren are applying!

I am so excited for your son! He wants to be in the Corps, is that correct? All of y’all must be over the moon! I am so glad that he appealed!

@Aggie1998 If you don’t mind me asking what was the basis of the appeal? As I understand it something materially has to have changed from the original application. I didn’t see anything in your earlier posts that mentioned what was missed or changed. Thanks!

@Aggie1998 wow congrats!!! I know exactly what y’all are going through and I literally cried too! Hope to see you Aggieland!

I am not sure that our situation will help anyone else as this has been a wacky year and who knows what will happen next year! But here is his stats:
Applied Aug 10th
PSA on March 11th
Filed appeal March 28th
Appeal approved April 8th
GPA 99.7
Unranking high school- A&M assigned 1st quarter
SAT 1280 (don’t know his sub scores)
NUMEROUS leadership, and EC’s including Boys State.

His appeal essay focused on how he wanted to be in the corps, and he found out last month that they corps actually sends a list to admission of who they want, based on spend the night. He never did a spend the night his junior year because we had a house flood, that took 7 months to repair and because of that we couldn’t get him to CS. We didn’t know it mattered to the corps and thereby admissions. He talked about in his essay how he wants to be in the military, like his his Aggie dad, grandfather and uncle, and that he would like to sign his military contract at the earliest possible date which is Soph year.

Honestly we are shocked. It wasn’t a traditional appeal reason. In fact, we were really weren’t holding out any hope. When it came through yesterday our whole family cried. His essay was authentic and real and what reason they actually granted it, I can’t tell you. I think all the rules we thought we knew about admissions this year have been turned upside down. We can’t begin to speculate on how things will go. The kids just have to try their absolute hardest, and not give up, even if that means taking your PSA otion and coming soph year. That was his plan (we just put down deposits on Friday at Tarleton!) Whatever the reason the committee decided to approve him, I don’t know but we are deeply grateful!

@brichey and @Aggie1998 WHOOP & Congratulations!!! Crying tears of joy for you! ??

I am so excited for all of you!! How did they notify you? Were you checking his account daily, etc.?

@Aggie1998 : Thanks so much for sharing your son’s journey! Appealing a PSA offer CAN work, y’all are the second successful family we have heard of this year! Hopefully, others will realize that an appeal can’t hurt and it might work, you just don’t know unless you try.

It is awesome to hear that your son has such a deep tradition and desire to serve our country. Thank you for raising a wonderful son.

He is SO going to love being an Aggie in Aggieland next year! :slight_smile: Not that it will be easy, but it will be amazing!