<p>No problem 
Let me know if you have any other problem.</p>
<p>On a side note, I go to Penn and I have a friend (my classmate) in Stanford and neither of us have a medal in any Olympiads. Also, interviews matter for very little (my interviewer himself mentioned how little the interview counts for). If anyone decides to not apply due to reasons like this, know that it is a pretty dumb reason to not try.</p>
<p>Though I hear debate is a very good ECA, I personally know two students from Bangladesh who debates who got into Cornell in 2017 (sadly without aid and thus they decided to not attend, but that doesnât really lessen their great achievement any).</p>
<p>I am quite confused after reading the common data sets of colleges like Colby, connecticut, trinity and kenyon which claim to meet 100% aidâŠ
They have average packages of 35-40k including loansâŠ
But that still means one would have to pay about $15-20k out of their EFC ??
Howâs that 100% need met?
Also do you think its just because of the âaverageâ value? And i might get a bigger package?
I wish i could get into somewhere where i had to pay less than $10kâŠBut wistful thinking, i guess.</p>
<p>Regular Decision result of WUSTL for 2018 is out now. Any successful applicant from Bangladesh?</p>
<p>WUSTL is a very good Uni. One of my relatives selected there for Engineering with huge amount of Aid. From students feedback, it is known that this Uni is excellent in looking after its students and it is undergraduate focused Uni. but least known in Bangladesh.</p>
<p>It is really very alarming that no Bangladeshi student is getting admitted in Harvard Uni. for the last few years. Students from Vietnam and even from Nepal are selected every year but not from Bangladesh. What can be the probable reason? Why Harvard does not take any student from Bangladesh? Dearth of meritorious student? Not likely as many brilliant Bangladeshi students get selected in other high ranking Uni. every year. Then why? </p>
<p>One girl from Bangladesh got selected in Caltech and she is not from any school in Dhaka.</p>
<p>One girl also got selected in MIT like previous years and MIT likes Bangladeshi girls.I heard it from U.S.A. and probably it is correct.</p>
<p>WUSTL is an amazing college and your friend is incredibly lucky to go there! My congratulations to him! It doesnât matter that it is least known in Bangladesh, what matters is whether the people who will be hiring him know the university, and I assure you that they will.</p>
<p>It also doesnât matter that no one got selected for Harvard recently. Its an incredibly selective process. Plus we send kids to all the other Ivies (havenât met someone from Yale though), Stanford, Chicago and so on. Harvard really doesnât make or break anything so long as you are in a peer school. Every university has their own way of selecting students. Iâd say the lack of selection is less based on âBangladeshâ and more based on âwe donât have what they wantâ. And no one really knows what they want :P</p>
<p>Congratulations to the girl going to Caltech as well!</p>
<p>This year MIT selected 2 from Bangladesh. They are Brishty sikder and Sourav Das. Bristy Sikder is from Chittagong Grammar School and Sourav Das is from Dhaka College.Brishty Sikder got 2 Medals, Silver for IT Olympiad and Bronze for Math Olympiad and Sourav Das got Silver Medal in Math Olympiad. Sourav Das is from Dhaka College and a student of Bangla Medium and so he should get extra thanks from all of us as he proved that hard work and dedication can do wonder. What about the so called Renown and Elite English Medium Schools in Dhaka like, Sunbeams,Scholistica, Sunnydale, Agakhan, Mappleleaf etc.? These schools could not send a single student in MIT/Harvard. These school authorities are busy with home task,class test,mocktest and many other tests and programs,so that students are always busy and cannot participate in any Competitions/ Olympiads,which they consider useless. Teaching standard of these so called Elite Schools is not also upto the standard and hence students are always engaged with the Coaching Centers to improve their grading and also to escape from getting B and C grading in their school transcript. Students work hard in Coaching Centres and do well in the Exams and credit goes to School. One of these schools recently introduce 3 Terms in a year instead of 2, so that it can earn additional amount for Term fees. Consider about the commitment in 3 terms in a year and the students will not have any respite what to say about participating in Olympiads or any Competition like that.</p>
<p>Thatâs a bit cruel considering Aga Khan and Sunbeams (or Sunnydale, I canât remember) did have students who were accepted to Cornell 2017. The English medium institutions donât do that bad, the main problem is that (or at least was for my school) they send more kids to Canada or Australia or other countries that donât require the SATs (or any other exam other than the IELTS) rather than USA. Canât really blame the schools for this though, I blame it on the students themselves. You canât make it to a top school if you arenât willingly to work for it. In fact, this year 0 students applied to USA from my school, and our school consider itself to be one of the Elite (lolwut) English Medium schools too.</p>
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<p>Hi, folks. I hope you donât mind me intrudingâŠI just saw the link to this thread on the Bangladesh Beyond Facebook page and wanted to share my two cents. </p>
<p>Firstly, I think itâs really sad that whenever this weird statistical head count comes up, people have to pull in the whole Bangla medium - English medium debate. The complex educational dynamics in our country is a different issue. And, as for souravdadaâs comment, I think a claim cannot be made without actually analyzing the different factors. Does he know how many of the students even applied to those âeliteâ schools? Iâm ranting, but the whole myopic âmedium debateâ really frustrates me. I know that students in Sunbeams are very heavily involved in their in-school plays, debating, football tournaments etc. Those are ECAâs as well. You donât need to participate in olympiads if thatâs not your forte. </p>
<p>Also, I just want to ask a question which passed by my mind. If weâre thinking about âso-called-eliteâ schools like Mastermind, Sunnydale, Sunbeams, why are we not counting the number for Notre Dame or Holy Cross? Those are equally, if not more âeliteâ ( â just look at the buildings and lovely history!) schools. I think itâs a bit unfair to randomly point out a select few schools without knowing the full information. Isnât there coaching system in the National Curriculum as well? I donât want to enrage anyone, but, I feel a little bit defensive since largely my high school experience (in Mastermind) has not been too dissimilar to that of my cousinâs who goes to YWCA. At the end of the day, both the curriculums have similar problems in actualization and bringing that up and trying to take a head-count. </p>
<p>Just my two cents, because the comment bothered me a bit. No offense to anyone or anyoneâs views. </p>
<p>As an alum of one of the schools mentioned in the thread (Aga Khan School) I feel obliged to respond to Souravdadaâs claim that: </p>
<p>What about the so called Renown and Elite English Medium Schools in Dhaka like, Sunbeams,Scholistica, Sunnydale, Agakhan, Mappleleaf etc.? These schools could not send a single student in MIT/Harvard. These school authorities are busy with home task,class test,mocktest and many other tests and programs,so that students are always busy and cannot participate in any Competitions/ Olympiads,which they consider useless. </p>
<p>(yeesh, the number of grammatical and spelling errors in that quote is too damn high)</p>
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<li><p>Does it matter that students from these schools did not get into MIT/Harvard? These arenât the only good universities in the world. There are plenty of AKS students studying at the University of British Columbia on the ILOT scholarship. Several people are studying at University College London, Manchester University, and several other great American universities such as Bard, Amherst, Mount Holyoke and NYU. I myself am the Cornellian YoBDa mentioned earlier in the thread who couldnât go to Cornell 2017 for financial reasons but Iâm going for Cornell '18 for free. I also made it through to the interview stage of University of Oxford â less than half the applicants get called in. So get over your MIT/Harvard obsession and acknowledge that there are plenty of fantastic universities across the world. </p></li>
<li><p>We donât consider ECAs useless. AKS is one of the few schools in Bangladesh that actively endorses ECA and in fact has made it compulsory for all students from Class 6 onwards. yes, we studied a lot. Yes, we went to coachings. But at the same time, we participated in, organised, ran clubs and events, and represented our school and ourselves in a wide variety of extracurricular activities. </p></li>
<li><p>I can confirm that not many people from AKS apply to the USA because of the hassle of writing essays, and giving the SATs. Australian, British, Malaysian and Canadian universities accept students based on A Levels so most students opt for that instead. </p></li>
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<p>Whatever Souravdada said about English Medium school is almost correct.These schools are mainly bothered about taking tests, keeping students busy and increasing different fees every year. Out of these, my school South bridge is not as bad though it is not considered by Sourabdada as a renown school.
Ming khan spoke very bad about my school in a forum,bangladeshis beyond border, which is not correct. Ming khan could not get any financial help from any school in USA though she applied more than 15 uni. She approached South breeze to get employed as a teacher so that she could show this as a job done in gap year. Though she was lacking required qualification, she was appointed just to help her for her next year application. But she is not grateful.
In the above post,she proved to be a self propagating nature, beating own drum. She got selection in Cornell in 2017 class as Cornell selects many in ed but didnât consider her worthy to provide any Aid like all other uni she applied. She begged to Cornell time and again but without any result.
In the 2018 class she again shamelessly applied ed to Cornell and repeatedly begged for Aid showing grave family condition and somehow managed to get Aid.
After that she starts propagating own self.Basically she is a shameless, self loving girl who disgraced my school though it is far better than her school and students from my school are in different schools in usa including Chicago Uni. Beware about this self propagating, shameless girl. </p>
<p>I think, Priti878, you have no right to comment on my circumstances when you clearly know nothing about it. For one, I didnât apply to more than 15 unis, I applied to 7. Yes, I didnât get aid to Cornell '17, but that doesnât mean I didnât get aid to other unis - I got substantial amounts of funding to Mount Holyoke College '17, and even enrolled. I could not attend, however, due to a change in family circumstances. </p>
<p>I âshamelesslyâ re applied ED to Cornell '18 because guess what, all universities encourage you to reapply should you want to. âRepeatedly begged for aidâ? Haha, and how would you know that, do you have access to my emails or those of Cornellâs Admissions Officeâs?</p>
<p>I approached South Breeze (Bridge? Pft) not so I could show it âas a job done in gap yearâ. Had that been the case I would not have still been working, and I would not have been hired in the first place. How do you know Iâm not grateful? Head over there one day and youâll see just how much I give back to SBS. </p>
<p>By the way, âpropagatingâ means promoting an idea. I wasnât promoting ideas. I was stating facts.
And if you have something to say regarding my comment on the BD Beyond Borders group, say it there where everyone can see what we have both spoken about. </p>
<p>Making that post is a very pathetic thing to do, Priti878. </p>
<p>If you truly believe she got employed by your school as a teacher though she lacked the qualification, then you are insulting your school far more than anyone else ever could. I assure you, Cornell doesnât simply give you aid because you âbegâ. No one would give you 200k dollar because you âbeggedâ for it. If they did, places like Cornell would be filled with students like you who have little idea about how colleges work. In fact, if they did, I would start emailing Cornell repeatedly starting right now.</p>
<p>Reapplying to a college you already had acceptance to does not make you shameless. The only reason I am replying to this useless post is so that no one who reads this forum gets discouraged to reapply to a college simply because you believe it to be âshamelessâ. Get off whatever narcotics you are currently using, and stop spreading such ideas in a forum where students can actually make the mistake of following you.</p>
<p>If you have trouble with someone insulting your school in a forum on Facebook, stop hiding in CC and go âdefendâ it in Facebook, not in a completely different website. Please refrain from ruining a thread that I have grown to love.</p>
<p>P.S- There are many brilliant students from South Breeze. Try not to defile its good name through posts such as this.</p>
<p>Itâs pretty interesting that the first reaction we all have is the same old Bangla Medium vs. English Medium debate.
I genuinely donât believe the problems outlined in Souravdadaâs post is unique to just English Medium schools. The same problems crop up at St. Josephâs, Notre Dame or whatever other school you want to talk about. The problem of attempting to overachieve in academia and underachieving everywhere else is culturally endemic here in the Subcontinent. Do Bengali medium children forgo coaching? Do all Bengali medium children launch themselves head first into ECAs? From the friends I had in such institutionsâŠwell, the answer is no. I also have a hard time believing it is as acute as he claims it is. To cite just two examples I know very well, we have kids going abroad to debate for the country every year and we have kids representing the nation at International Olympiads every year too. Kids from BOTH English Medium and Bengali Medium schools.</p>
<p>And as far as the statistics go, Iâve been told Sunnydale has alumni in NYU, Harvard, McGill and apparently, from this year onward Columbia and Cornell. I remember a counselor in Mastermind bragging about having Harvard alumni as well. And then of course, thereâs AKSâ proud ILOT winners in UBC, as well as Ming at Cornell, and Iâm sure countless others in the generations that have gone by. These are just the students Iâve heard about, and Iâm sure there are plenty more making us proud from BOTH English Medium and Bengali Medium Schools.</p>
<p>That being said, only a fool would say such institutions are free of any problems. But its not a problem of a lack of opportunities. And its not due to any one system being better then the other.</p>
<p>To me, it seems like most parents and students just donât seem to realize how important growth beyond rote memorization is. And as for the teachersâŠWellâŠThis may sound pessimistic, but the truth is education in Bangladesh sold its soul a long time agoâŠWe have English Medium teachers forcing coaching upon the students, Bengali Medium teachers advertising study guides, and teachers from both sides focusing on maximizing their pay. And when a system like that is in place, youâre undoubtedly going to have students left behind.</p>
<p>A final thought - given the disruptive nature of Pritiâs post, maybe just ignore it? Itâs better not to waste time on misinformed hate posts.</p>
<p>I donât know where people are getting all these ENGLISH MEDIUM BANGLA MEDIUM stats from but I just want to mention that Mastermind has students going to elite schools every year. They even have this board dedicated to offer letters(if you seek evidence). Last year a boy got into Princeton, some year before that there was someone who went to Harvard. I am pretty sure Bangladeshis from other schools go to elite schools, you just donât know about it because it doesnât make national news. So no its not the school, itâs you. If you are good enough, you get admitted and if you are lucky you get some aid too.</p>
<p>YoBDa. If you think that my post will misguide the future applicants, then I will request them not to follow what I have spelled out but to follow you.
But there is problem in following you/your contents. While criticizing any post if you think that the post writer is using narcotics, then it will be a bad thing to follow. Moreover,poor person like me does not have capability to use narcotics, rather highly rich family member like you,who is using 60 lac taka per year for study in USA, whose father also spent 2 crore taka for his elder sonâs study in Toronto Uni in Canada, can afford that.Yes, Rich family member like you can afford to spent money on narcotics.
In your one post you advised the future applicants of Bangladesh to beg good transcripts to the school authority for sending to USA uni. Begging good transcript means adopting Unfair means/Cheating.Why do you advocate others to adopt cheating ? Do you personally prefer that?
In your Facebook profile, you have said that you are studying Engineering for money and your father advised that study is not for only money and other professions are also having money. Do you want that other applicants follow you and study for money only and neglecting 2000 Uni in USA, just will apply in 1 Uni in ED for years together shamelessly just for money sake? May be, if they prefer and follow you.
However, more than 400 Private and Public Uni in USA provide Need based Aid/Scholarship to International Students.
In my last post if anybody is sure that information provided is not correct, then I am sorry. </p>
<p>There are at least 150 million âcheatersâ in Bangladesh I guess? one or two more wonât do more damage.</p>
<p>actually, in my view, this thread isnât about making heated arguments where people from all over the world see such things.</p>
<p>admission ISNâT a fair game always. remember it very well. Iâll share just some simple stories on myself (rest assured, I havenât âsoldâ or âbeggedâ in order to get into any of my colleges.)</p>
<p>now Iâm going straight to the point.
Iâm a first generation student who didnât have the âpleasureâ or âopportunityâ to do great things in schools like many âaccomplishedâ and âsuccessfulâ people.</p>
<p>I didnât go to a TOP high school (itâs not in the proximity of the definition of top schools but I guess Iâve some other things to prove that it isnât a bad one either.)</p>
<p>however, colleges had different opinion. I didnât go to such schools and another student was offered full tuition at my safety and i was offered much less. whyâs that? you might think that wait, they didnât recognized it. but as far as i know, guaranteed means guaranteed. nothing more, nothing less.</p>
<p>I would like to keep things secretive and donât want to make some heated arguments again. but hereâs my two cent on some issues.
Youâre assuming a lot. some would say oh wait, you DID get the opportunity. but how? in my entire region of 16 districts, those so called Olympiad people never came in last 10 years. now, you might say what? what about school? but rest assured, academics IS the priority here not ECAs and such things. and trust me, i had above average things.</p>
<p>why was I rejected? HSC. the school isnât recognized and the admission officer told me that. why? if you can give an answer then go on, Iâ like to hear from some people who are âgreatâ people. too great in fact. </p>
<p>someone got into one of the top 5 of all universities across the universe (if alien exists then thatâs different case but youâre some great people, you might know it really well. thatâs not my realm.) and applied to 21 universities for what ? the f***? Iâm really glad that some of the greats like Euler/Newton (wait he wasnât great. He didnât won any awards. so exclude this line) didnât won great competitions to make them great. and they certainly didnât apply to 25 colleges and wanted to break ârecordsâ of admission. I feel bad for the kids who are qualified and going to be rejected this year from all top 10 (MIT, stanford, ivies are the universities that can teach you. not any other universities like oxford of cambridge. so these are all. and rests are for idiots.).</p>
<p>now, some of you might say, this guy sucks and heâs just another guy whoâs saying that âgrapes are sour.â</p>
<p>nah, Iâve my own words for that. âIâm bad, arrogant, and ridiculous.â and I know that well. I donât need to hear from someone else.
@priti878, once a famous person (me 
) said:</p>
<p>Donât poop in public because unless youâre great and accomplished student in admission, people will stare at you because those stool will be bad. meaning: even stools of famous people smell nice.</p>
<p>Iâm tired. If you want to hear more ridiculous comment, ask away. -_- but at this moment, Iâm going to bed.</p>