The Class of 2023- sharing, venting, discussing! - MT

Our D in the middle of the audition process but there are already things that we would have done differently. I know that there are plenty of parents of juniors reading through this discussion and this post is just my thoughts and opinions so far. Our D is a great student with solid SAT scores so that is a comfort because she qualifies for a large amount to merit aid. She has friends that will be accepted artistically to several top programs but could potentially denied admission because of their academics. The academic acceptances have come easily for our D.

The 1st - We would have found a way to send my D to some of the summer MT programs that her friends were able to attend. For some of them, their pre-screen was waived to those schools and they had already established relationships with some of the program directors before college auditions. This is not a guarantee of admission but it certainly wouldn’t hurt.

The 2nd - D would have used a coach from the beginning. We would have started my D with a coach last January and had her pre-screens done long before her senior year started. Pre-screens have changed the “game” and these are critical to perfect these if you want to get to the live audition.

While there are many MT hopefuls that do not use coaches, I want to give you the reasons why I think they are helpful.

  1. THEY KNOW THE DIRECTORS OF THE PROGRAMS. They know their “ways”, their likes, dislikes, etc. The coach may not have a direct influence on the decision makers but they certainly have a relationship with them and have a “feel” for what they are looking for. Are they looking for legit singers? Belters? Huge personalities? Dancers?

  2. The coaches have many years of experience and they have seen the industry change over the years. There are only a few of the top schools that don’t do prescreens but six years ago, this was not the norm.

  3. Many coaches have smaller versions Unifieds. This is a chance for your MT hopeful to audition for some programs early. It also gives them a chance to do a “live prescreen” which in my opinion is a better.

  4. I believe that teenagers need mentors other than parents. The right coach can be encouraging and helpful in a way that parents cannot be. They can help instill a confidence level by setting realistic expectations. After all, I am not an MT expert. Our D’s coach is a love and loves all of her students.

D didn’t start with a coach until really late in the game. The short period of time that she spent with her coach was extremely valuable and I can’t imagine how much more our D would have gained had we started earlier. D was able to attend an early audition event and had great success. However, I feel that the students that started earlier had a much greater advantage over our D and had more call backs and acceptances. These were also the same students that had done the summer programs as well. Our D is “on hold” for three MT BFA programs. Her dream school is one of these three. She has auditioned for them and they continue to send emails and snail mail correspondence that she is still being considered but final decisions are not sent out until after their final auditions in late February for most of these schools. In late January and all through February, she is attending four live auditions. I’m not putting the names of schools down because I don’t want to “jynx” anything. LOL!!!

The 3rd - D would have researched more schools other than the TOP MT SCHOOLS!!! Her three “on holds” and her four auditions are all on this top list but there is always a possibility that she won’t get accepted anywhere. She has had one audition rejection and three live prescreen rejections, and two schools where she passed the prescreen but has opted not to audition. There are so many programs out there that are up and coming!!! This was her list - after everything is said and done, I will hopefully be able to post that she received at least one acceptance: Point Park, Baldwin Wallace, PACE University, Penn State, Shenandoah University, Coastal Carolina University, AMDA, Boston Conservatory, Rider, Otterbein, Texas State, Florida State, and Ohio University. She considered Elon, NYU Tisch, and Hartt but did not submit her application to these schools.

This process is just INSANE. Sending huge hugs to the moms, dads, guardians, etc - that are swimming in this vat of uncertainty!!!

Thank you for the insight @onourown !

Great advice @artsmomof4 - I very much agree with the value of coaches. And that one of the things they bring to us parents is deeper insight about the programs to apply to and what the directors and professors at those schools are looking for. You’ve cast a good wide net on schools you’ve applied to - hopefully your D will get a couple of nice acceptances out of this!

Hope things work out, @artsmomof4 (and all!) Speaking for ourselves, we were way too arrogant about what schools might be safeties, since we have an academically strong student with a great ACT in addition to the whole MT package. It’s just hard to wrap your head around the fact that a school that’s an easy academic “win” is, in fact, insanely competitive artistically. We had a similar list to yours and would have added a few non-audition artistic safeties if we could do it all again. I agree that a coach would have definitely been helpful with crafting a list (and managing - ahem! - parental expectations.) But I am chagrined by what an industry the audition process has become and the outlay of cash required to even audition for an artistic degree. In the end, it is the raw talent the schools are looking for, whether kids are professionally polished and coached, or not. They want students they can train, who are a fit with their program. Right? I hope so.

@artsmomof4 - This is good advice. The only thing I would add is that if you are going to apply to those tippy-top schools, broaden your list to schools that might not hit 100% of your criteria. You can always turn them down (if you get in), but my heart broke last spring for the many parents on these boards whose talented kids got in nowhere. They were scrambling to apply to schools they wouldn’t consider earlier - and many schools were simply no longer taking applications.

Also- unless traveling to/from a school is a financial burden you can’t overcome, the LAST reason I would not apply to a school is location. Many of the schools that aren’t in your “ideal” locations are somewhat smaller programs and have terrific networks to help graduates. Again- if you are lucky enough to be weighing offers, you can pick warm and sunny (or close to home, etc.,) locations, but an airplane ride away location might be the only great program that your child is accepted to. I promise later, you’ll be glad to have that option.

Coudn’t agree more about the money machine this has become, @DramaLlama18. And about the parental expectations… and the need for safeties! The one thing we did absolutely right was plan for a “soft landing” if auditions didn’t work out. My D was very picky about where she’d apply and location was paramount - so her schools were all located in Chicago, NYC metro, Philly, DC and Boston - plus they needed to have good academics. Our wide net was non-existent. But she had an early acceptance from a “fit” BA Drama program where she could take MT classes and audition later for the BFA. It made the audition process so much easier to have that in her pocket. It’s not the right approach for everyone but it was for her. Every parent wants their kid to reach for their dream program and they should - as long as they also keep an open mind and know there’s a good chance the applicant will find their match somewhere else. I loved the story of the son who didn’t was rejected from ED school, said “bummer” and made a sandwich - he’s got the right attitude.

I’m rooting for USC’s MT program in spite of all the no results posted here. The West Coast has gotta up the MT game! Envy all of you who have the opportunity to drive to multiple on-campus auditions without a plane trip/hotel/car rental attached to the weekend.

My daughter did get a yes from USC; they have a callback weekend that is mandatory. Thanks everyone for all the information!

Congrats to your D @mtnyc19! Keep us posted how the callback goes - I’m very interested in hearing about their “process”. USC is a popular school in my area but the MT kids all look east… could be a game changer. :slight_smile:

@ZukAndSowash Thank you for the Steinhardt info! My daughter is auditioning Jan 20. I went ahead and booked our flights last night and booked the latest flight out (8:45pm) just in case. I figured having unexpected “free time” in NYC isn’t so bad…I am sure we can find something fun to do : ) BAL to your Son! Would love to hear about your experience there.

Congrats. @mtnyc19. So happy for your daughter

This year USC started an new BFA MT program. As part of their application process, prescreen videos were required. For the BFA Acting program, there were no prescreen videos required this year, or in past years. I expect that for class of 2024 applying Fall of 2019, USC will likely require prescreen videos for BFA Acting degree as well. In a few years, probably all programs will require prescreen videos.

Congrats @mtnyc19 !!!

@suledamo and @ZukAndSowash Congrats on getting a live audition to NYU Steinhardt! We are still waiting to hear Prescreen results… what was the turn around time for you?

has anyone heard from penn state regarding prescreens?? still no answer from them or from BOCO, whom we did early action for and are waiting on an acceptance or rejection sigh

@ivyirene , my D is just a junior but we visited PSU in the fall & they said that prescreens were viewed in 2 batches, if it wasn’t submitted before 9/30 it was viewed in the second batch which I think they said you would hear this week…BOCO , I thought the early action PS was to be submitted by 9/30 in order to qualify for the early December audition, so I would call if you hit that deadline something seems off, but this is just going from my notes on junior year campus visits we did

@ivyirene , Are you waiting for BOCO audition dates or did you already audition there. I submitted my S application there in Late November and auditioned live in Boston just today. if you applied, I would call them. They told us everyone auditioning regular admission will hear late March or up to April 1st. BTW, for other parents yet to audition, this was my son’s favorite audition to date. He said it was tough but really fun (and long - 1.5 hours work your butt-off dance call). They also spent time talking to him after vocals and monologues, and for the first time, asked him to do “that special wildcard” thing you applied with. No one had done that yet, which showed they wanted to get to know him a bit.

@ivyirene re: BOCO prescreens Early Action…we heard back within 2-3 weeks so I would think you would have heard something so you might want to give them a call. I can’t speak for Penn State as we didn’t submit so not sure on that one.

@CaMom13 Yeah people keep talking about parent expectations…my d wouldn’t listen to me about applying to any true safety program. And her father wouldn’t let her apply to schools we couldn’t drive to - luckily we live in Ohio so more schools than she could even apply to in driving distance and for us that does work out better. And she has definitely benefited being closer to home. We didn’t use a coach and one of the things I could have used one for is to get my d to be more realistic and widen her net! LOL But in the end I’m guessing she would have opted to go to her favorite school and re-audition - she is pretty determined. They have to do what’s right for them.

@3Blessings Daughter submitted prescreen on 9/26 and got an email about passing prescreens on 10-15.It does not appear there was any notification on Acceptd, only direct email.