The Grandparent Thread

@WayOutWestMom and @my-3-sons, congratulations! So many baby girls here. My S and DIL plan to rent a Snoo for the baby due in April, especially since she will be living in their room for longer than her brother did. I suggested they not give away the regular bassinet though until they’re sure she likes it, per @kelsmom’s experience. Also love the magnetic clothing recommendations!

This week DIL had to have the longer glucose tolerance test because her initial results (one hour test) came back high. Results were normal, so no gestational diabetes but she was little panicked. I had it with my 3rd so was able to calm her down but everyone’s happy she doesn’t have to deal with that now.

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Retired Pediatric ER nurse here. I have to do research on magnetic clothing closures, but the thought of it frightens me. Ingested magnets can cause catastrophic damage. I am not so worried about the infants, if it is only on infant clothing, but their toddler siblings who will put anything in their mouths. I wonder how these passed safety regulations.

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Congrats to the new grandparents. @WayOutWestMom I can relate to your driving fiasco - I was driving the 750 mile drive back home from visiting my mom (DH had out of state/international work travel) and delayed the drive back as she had podiatry surgery that morning. DDs were 4 and 6. Towards the end of the trip I had to pull into rest stops just to rest for a bit to continue driving. As soon as I pulled back to the Interstate, there was a truck cargo fire and we were stand still for over an hour. When I got home, I quickly was dead asleep. DDs were mellow so that was great because I was a zombie.

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RE: Snoo. There is a discount for healthcare professionals. (You need to contact the company before buying and send proof of your medical employment.) And there’s also a discount for military families. (Proof of enlistment required.)

RE: magnetic closures. D1 had the same reservations about swallowed magnets. (She’s an EM doc and has had many first hand experiences with children who have swallowed magnets.) You do need to inspect closures after washing/drying to make sure the magnets stay enclosed by fabric. I think the company recommends no more than 30 washing/drying cycles for each piece of clothing. But 30 washes is a lot for infant clothing. Littles outgrow their clothes so fast! The twins have gone from premie to newborn and are now into 3 month sizes.

@SOSConcern Ugh! Accidents always make a bad drive worse. Glad your DDs were mellow. I can’t imagine making a long drive with cranky children in the car. (Well, I can imagine and am glad it didn’t happen to you.)

P.S. Baby A and Baby B do have real names (Alessandra and Beatrix), it’s just that their prenatal labels kind of hung around as nicknames since they match their actual initials.

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I am almost speechless. DD graduated college 2016, Married SIL 2017, they had to have a baby ‘right away’ so baby 1 May 2018; DD switched her nursing work shifts (12 hour night to 12 hour day) and got work shift change baby #2 born July 2019. Well now ‘Holiday 2020’ baby #3 is on the way.

The problem is SIL’s career is not really going (while DD’s is), her earnings have paid off his school debt, the debt for needing a more family vehicle. Well now they will have 3 kids under 4 and need a different vehicle to carry all 3 in their car seats. I guess they will replace the 4 door sedan.

Fortunately I will retire before her maternity leave will be over. Once they see where they are at with things…I think she will need to have the two in day care and older child in Montessori - living not far I can come help if SIL will need to be away for starting his career (he may have a 6 month training program/law enforcement where he has to be there).

For the ones who have difficulty conceiving, there is the other end of the spectrum, “Fertile Myrtle”.

DH is helping his mom out of state. His concern is same as mine - SIL needs to get the career going.

Fortunately DD has a lot of stability and we live close. Babies are a blessing, but the parents need to also step up to the plate and be the best they can be for the family. Reality.

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@SOSConcern - Three grandchildren ~ three times as much love! Though I do see why you have some concern. That would be challenging. So glad that you are close so you can support your D and her family!

My parents had a 3 year old, a 1 year old and twins. They struggled financially, but they made it work. I knew plenty of families in similar situations. Your D and SIL have their own idea of what makes them happy, it may well be different than yours, @SOSConcern, and that’s okay.

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Wow lots to catch up on! Congrats on all the new grand babies and twins!!! Are you the older sib or the twin, @kelsmom? ANd congrats to all the new grandparents!! My GD didn’t like the snoo, which had been borrowed from a friend. Not sure if they will try it with GS (due in a month). But, as an aside, what did they try today? They went skiing!! DIL is 8 mos pregnant, and gd is 3. GD preferred to play in the snow, with DS, and DIL took a few runs. I skied when 5 mos pregnant with that son. Many years ago. So nice to see so many of our cc crowd with grandkids now!

I am #2, @jym626 (and the only girl).

I reluctantly became a SAHM when DH had a lot of international and national travel - no family here and I stopped out of my career for 18 years (and also included in that time was aggressive stage III cancer and other medical issues). DH’s salary and career looked fairly good at that time, but then his company was sold and his salary pretty much froze for a lot of years, and the company moved forward w/o their pension plan. I was fortunate to receive inheritance at a financially precarious time for us. I was also able to re-enter work force at the right time with my retained RN credentials - but it wasn’t easy and it was a far cry from the career job I had - being administrator and CFO of a specialty board certified physician group. Fortunately we had very solid financial investments that I managed well and also added a very good financial person to help us diversify our holdings later. We raised our DDs well and they had very good opportunities and no college debt.

The problem is not only SIL’s career not totally moving forward, but that he is not an equal partner with the household duties. His mom was SAHM and due to dad’s career/job moves she was limited in fulfilling herself outside the home (she was HS Valedictorian) - she had 3 years of accounting college education along the way but not able to go to college right away due to not affordable option nearby and she needed to work to help support the household; married around age 33/34 (her dad was insensitive about her leaving the home at all - her BF now DH had to sort of wrestle her away) always felt a greater responsibility to aging parents than younger siblings who were able to leave the roost and pursue their dreams because she was staying to help the aging parents - so she was a bit of a martyr both with her parents and with her H/sons. W/O some income from her along the way, they moved forward with the sons’ college the way her DH had.

SIL badly needs braces which parents were not able to do for him. If DD/SIL knew they were staying in current city for a duration of braces, they would budget and do (it will affect his health later on, the teeth need the braces). But not now with baby #3. DD’s dental plan would pay some for braces.

SIL acts a bit like he is the bread winner/head of household and reluctantly does household chores. Immature.

DD had fantasies about being SAHM, home schooling, etc. But his salary can barely pay the rent.

Both DD and SIL have some realities going on that they are not dealing with very well on an emotional level. But they will get their act together in the transition just as they did with surprise baby #2. DD is great on budgeting. She is the one doing almost all of the heavy lifting. SIL is good with the kids, but SLOW - everything takes a long time. In some ways that keeps him doing less and the expectation level low on what he can accomplish at home.

So they will struggle a bit and hopefully DD will slowly readjust her thinking about her career staying intact and working out the details of 2 in day care and one in Montessori when her maternity leave is complete. The oldest will start Montessori perhaps in a few months. DD has a M - F job where she has a private office to be able to pump breast milk as she did with baby #2. If her budget is tight, at the time we will offer to supplement Montessori (giving the money directly to her as gift) to help them move forward. DD keeps getting step increases in pay.

SIL in some ways has shot himself in the foot on his career. Sometimes he thinks he is smarter than others and he has an attitude about how to go about his career goals. One can do that as a single person just caring for himself, but not as a family man with wife and 3 children.

But they love each other, they have beautiful children, and it will all work out. Fortunately we are near and can help them through some financial bumps w/o being enablers, controlling. I will walk on egg shells for both short term and long term family well being.

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Having children bring out the best and worst in us. It’s not something we can easily know while we are dating.
@SOSConcern - I have ready some of your posts. I get the sense that your SIL may remind you a bit of your husband and you may be aggravated by it.
To be honest, my SIL also reminds me a bit of my ex-H, but he also has a lot of good characters. :slight_smile: It is not surprising D1 found someone who may be a bit like her dad. D1 knows what she has signed up for. I will be there to support her no matter what. I think we all choose our own path and it is hard to figure out what the future will bring. Meanwhile, enjoy all of your grandchildren. It is a blessing.

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Actually @oldfort SIL is almost nothing like DH in personality/personal characteristics - however we are all faithful Catholics which is in many ways a saving grace with bumps in life’s journey.

DH recognized early on that his talents were in engineering and that would provide him/family with more financial security than what he grew up with. We waited a long time to have children due to moving a lot and later having stable city/home/careers.

We have faith in SIL but he is a late bloomer on his career. Also will leave the work at home to his W when he can, which is a characteristic of my FIL who acted like his W was a FT home-maker while in fact she was a career teacher who was the primary income and stability/pension/insurance etc. FIL acted very ignorant but MIL wouldn’t speak up because of what norms she thought were proper and how she was raised. However she did resent a lot of what she absorbed. An example: MIL would do her FIL’s laundry when he became widowed. However she couldn’t choose the laundry day - it was always ‘Monday’. So instead of when it was easiest for her, she had to suck it up like a servant.

So now they will have their third child. My DD is the one who is absorbing the responsibilities. SIL has a little time to get his career going, but not a lot of time. As I have said, SIL lacks in some maturity. DH was never immature - in fact he was a very mature 19/20 YO when we met.

Regarding toilet training, I highly recommend a book from the 70s called “Toilet Training in Less than a Day.” My pediatrician at the time recommended it. It basically teaches the child how to stay dry and involves lots of practice and rewards. I used it for all three of my kids.

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I am officially a grandma. D1 went into labor unexpectedly ( 2-3 weeks early) last night. It was a very intense and fast labor. The doula showed up at 9pm and they checked into the hospital around 11 and the baby was born at 2:40am. The baby had the cord wrapped around her neck 4 times. She inhaled some fluid on the way out. They are keeping her in NICU for few days. She is not quite breathing on her own yet, but her condition is improving.
I am very excited, but also worried. Fingers crossed.

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I made some Chinese chicken cooked with ginger, dark sesame oil and sake for her. I dropped it off at the hospital this evening. She said she ate the whole thing and then she passed out.

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Congratulations, @oldfort! Wishing you and your family much happiness!

It is so scary when they get sent to the NICU. I will pray for your granddaughter. GS was there for three days. He had also inhaled fluid. Those NICU physicians and nurses are true angels. Because GS was full term, he looked like a giant in there.

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Congratulations, @oldfort! Hoping for a short NICU stay for your little one.

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Congratulations, @oldfort. How scary! Best wishes for the little one’s health.

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Last night they took her off the ventilator and put her on CPAP. She is improving. Both parents were able to spend some time with her. They had to take turns to go in because of Covid protocol. They said she was very calm when they were holding her.
Thank you for your good wishes.

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So glad to hear your granddaughter is improving, @oldfort! Congratulations on becoming a grandmother!

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