<p>Stanford states in its website that app. form should reach there by 1st November. If one will take SAT II tests in the 1st week of Novermber, will they accept it or not for ED, was my question. Where can i find Adides, Sucharita and Akash’s stats? I found Merc’s & Shahs’s stats in MIT results roster… those were the greatest stats I have ever seen of an Indian student.
I just dont know what the adcoms really want from an Indian applicant :(</p>
<p>^^^hey ronty007, coulpd u plz give me the link for watever stats u have been able to find. thanx</p>
<p>yes sachit…
Here is the link >>>>> <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=40411&page=10[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=40411&page=10</a></p>
<p>my stats are in this link
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showpost.php?p=687541&postcount=323[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showpost.php?p=687541&postcount=323</a></p>
<p>such’s stats should be somewhere in here as well, but if you dont know already, she has 1600+2360 
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=46795&page=1&pp=20[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=46795&page=1&pp=20</a></p>
<p>Adides, ur EC’s were great… SAT was ur hook 2</p>
<p>thanks a lot adides and ronty007.</p>
<p>everybody’s stats are amazing…srsly…they were AWESOME!!!</p>
<p>Hey,</p>
<p>I haven’t really gone through the last 30 pages or so, but I get the impression not many seem interested in applying to LACs…why so?</p>
<p>Ronty: I think Stanford will accept your November scores, as long as they reach them before they make a decision. Even if you don’t get your original scoresheet, (they usually reach India quite late) its ok…just mail them your scores and send in the scoresheet later.</p>
<p>Shash: How’s IIT?</p>
<p>Thank you gandalf… Where r u going to join or have joined?</p>
<p>I’m going to Williams in a week’s time…</p>
<p>Congrats… WHere is ur stats?
ur major?</p>
<p>Gandalf’s stats: :</p>
<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=15316&page=3&pp=20&highlight=stats[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=15316&page=3&pp=20&highlight=stats</a></p>
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<p>lol, yeah right! there were 100s of applicants in the 2009 batch who had better scores+ecs than i did. so if ur sats, ecs are in the same ballpark as mine, trust me, it aint enough. you will need a lot of luck too (like i did)</p>
<p>ronty, i am doing chemical engineering here…
well i am not sure abt sats, but i heard that atleats sat1 is compulsory for international applicants…shall ask ard n let u noe :)</p>
<p>thanks a lot Neha. Plz tell me about the stats of Indian students accepted thru SAT in ur University for this session.</p>
<p>** 1857: The untouchable story **
By RAJA SEKHAR VUNDRU</p>
<p>Any historic event properly dramatised would make a good film, be it Robert Clive (1935, USA) or Mangal Pandey The Rising (2005, India). The transformation of the military history of the Sepoy Mutiny into the social history of the First War of Independence has already taken a good deal of historians time. Still, the underlying facts need re-examination.
On February 11, 1857, Major General J B Hearsey, commanding the Bengal Presidency Army reported an incident from Barrackpore to Colonel R J H Birch, military secretary to the East India Company: A high-caste Brahmin sepoy was stopped by an untouchable khalasi employed at the ammunition depot. The thirsty untouchable sought some water from the Brahmins lota. The Brahmin sepoy refused, as the untouchables touch would defile the vessel. The khalasi taunted the sepoy, You think much of your caste, but wait a little, the saheb-log will make you bite cartridges soaked in cow and pork fat, and then where will your caste be?
Soon, the rumour about the cartridges for the new Enfield Rifle spread in the Bengal Army. The high-caste Brahmin sepoys who dominated the army refused to use the new cartridges. The Muslim sepoys were equally enraged.
Unlike the Bombay Army, which had a predominance of untouchable Mahars (with a pre-colonial military history) or the Madras Army with its Pariah and Mala untouchables, the Bengal Army had a high presence of Brahmins. Lord William Bentick in 1826 was highly critical of the Bengal Army, which had only a few low-caste sepoys, and was an inefficient and expensive army.
Sir Charles Napier, the commanding officer of the Bengal Army in 1850, noted that if high-caste Hindoos were to opt between their caste and military discipline, they would sacrifice the latter. Fear of loss of caste prompted the Bengal Armys high-caste sepoys to refuse to travel overseas, bury their brethren in the war fields and eat food cooked by low-caste untouchables (who were traditionally the companys cooks with no qualms in handling beef and pork).
B R Ambedkar, from a Mahar military lineage, argued in the 1930s that the British established its rule in India with the help of valorous untouchable soldiers. The Bengal Army, which fought the Battle of Plassey, was largely composed of Dushads. The Anglo-Maratha wars, which let the British into western India were won by Mahars of the Bombay Army. The Madras Army, which defeated Tipu Sultan in the south, was of untouchable Pariahs and Malas.
But the social composition of the companys army changed after the British raised 74 regiments of Native Bengal Infantry, between 1757 and 1825. High-caste Hindoos chiefly Brahmins, drawn from the military labour markets of Awadh and Bihar, dominated all these new regiments. Soon the British realised the role of caste vis-a-vis loyalty, valour and discipline. Hence they recruited 24 regiments of Punjabi Infantry between 1846 and 1857, mostly from untouchable, Mazabhi Sikhs to balance the caste composition of the army.
** For sepoys like Mangal Pandey and other high-caste men, caste came before their military career. Biting cartridges coated with cow fat was a dreadful prospect that led to loss of caste. Such fears ignited the Mutiny or the First War of Independence.** Caste and religious loyalty once again took precedence over military discipline 127 years later, when a few Sikh soldiers deserted Indian Army after the 1984 Operation Bluestar.
But the savage massacre of British women and children on July 15, 1857 by sepoys at Bibi-Ghar, Cawnpore, which Karl Marx compared to the practices of the Christian Byzantine Empire, was a pointer to the ritualistic killings done by high caste men when confronted with a threat to their caste. A modern day analogy would be the butchering of lowcaste women and children by Ranvir Sena.
Finally, it was the untouchable Mazabhi Sikh soldiers who broke the sepoys siege of Delhi on September 15, 1857. The Mahars and Pariahs from Bombay and Madras armies were pressed into service. A re-reading of history could even bring out poetic justice in the great historic moment events that began with the refusal of water to an untouchable by a high-caste Brahmin sepoy, were put to an end by untouchable soldiers. So much for the rising of Mangal Pandey.</p>
<p>( The writer is an Indian Administrative Service officer. )</p>
<p>Article from Times Of India Editorial.</p>
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<p>Adides, Sucharita and others, please provide your valuable opinion on the above article from TOI.</p>
<p>Quite informative</p>
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