Or, honors classes conflict with other necessary classes, or an elective that trumps that particular honors class. Small schools often have such conflicts. My older daughter ran into that in fact, and her school wasn’t even that small.
Yes, as @Pizzagirl and @sseamom point out, there can be many reasons why a student isn’t in all honors classes. But it might be helpful to know why this particular student isn’t in them.
Mostly, I’m wondering whether this student might not be a native speaker of English and might not have strong enough English skills to do well in rigorous courses that involve heavy reading and writing. Being in honors math, science, and Chinese but not honors social studies or English suggests this possibility.
Of course, I could be completely wrong. I often am.
My D became interested in neuroscience early on in her high school career, as a result of reading various books. My D does not want to be a doctor. She is a sophomore majoring in communication science and disorders, and while there is no neuroscience major there at her university, she is finding many peers and professors who are guiding her to fulfill her interests.
Your daughter’s stats are excellent. My D ran cross country and did a few other things, none of which related to her interest in neuroscience, other than reading books on her own and making excellent grades in science.
We toured an Ivy, and the tour guide asked about what she was planning on studying. She said something about how music and the brain interact. He asked, “well, have you written any original compositions?” Ugh, well, no. She did take AP Music Theory in high school, but that did not turn into a Grammy. Of course, there are kids competing for spots who have created things that our mere mortal kids have not created. So what. She is getting a great education, and everything will be great.
This is a sophomore PSAT score which is not used to determine NMS status…at all. This student will need to have this score on her junior year PSAT.
Not working to full potential? For what? Winning a Nobel Prize?
This student is just fine…just fine.
And not every student participates in a sport…and guess what? They still get accepted to college.
I am also wondering if this is a true story,
I think this is where we are supposed to fall for the “tiger mom” bait.
Worriedmom12, please do not take the posts you read on this site as a representative sample of college applicants. It will only stress out you and your daughter and is not worth it. The very nature of this forum attracts workaholics, perfectionists, and extremely high achievers because they are the people most likely to crave extra advice on applying to colleges. Your daughter’s SAT scores are not that bad, and keep in mind “average SAT score” for a college is just that: an average. There are students there with scores well above and below the mean. A student with low SAT but powerful and unique extracurriculars is preferable to a student with a perfect GPA and SAT score but no life or passions to speak of outside of academics
As for extracurriculars, work with your daughter’s interests (which I happen to share
) but be prepared to look at science opportunities besides neurology (at this point, they are rare, competitive, and usually go to students older than your daughter). Unless your high school has an active environmental or technical club, this will probably involve looking outside her high school and toward local organizations. In my case, I chose environmentalist organizations and local science museums and summer camps that had programs for young kids.
I’m having a hard time understanding why a potential National Merit scholar isn’t taking honors level classes. I hope by “push” you meant “challenge”. If some of her classes are too easy, why hasn’t she been placed in honors classes?
I’d look for an opportunity to volunteer in a hospital. She might also enjoy reading books by Oliver Sacks. And stop worrying, she sounds fine.
It is unclear what is her goal and why she needs so much to focus on EC’s.
My own D. was opposite, she spread herself very thin. However, first, she happened to have many unrelated interests and second, she absolutely needed whole tons of medically related EC’s because her goal was to be accepted at combined bs/md programs.
You cannot make your goal to be part of your shildren life. You cannot make them do ECs if they are not personally interested. One advantage though is that the busy ones tend to learn an important skill of time management and tend to adjust at college faster because of that. But again, D. still piled up so much at college that at some point of time, she realized that she simply needs to start dropping, and dropped her life long and the most time consuming activity - her sport. Oh well, maybe she will get back to it at some point of her life… One more point, did you take her everywhere, was she in a lot of ECs when she was very young? Mine was in 5 when she was 7, no wonder that she preferred to stay busy. it is NOT for everybody, by 10 -12, they are pretty much aware what they are interested in, and being at home a lot was very unusual for my D., while other kid would prefer it very much.
Best wishes, and as far as I can see, unless there is a personal interest or required ECs for a specific goal, why to push?
Sport is an important part of life. It helps students find out more about themselves, particularly for students who do excel in the academic areas. And, it helps them let off steam from the academic pressures. We see a lot of top students who are not varsity athletes but who turn out in order to do these things and find challenges.
^Well, sport is just another activity that teaches a lot, but all of them do. However, if the kid is not interested, you canno make them, it would turn them against you. Is it worth it? Why?
Just one…I’m not saying that physical activity isn’t nice. I’m saying that it is NOT an essential ingredient for successful college acceptances. It’s just not.
This kid has a nice menu of ECs already. If she wants to add something, fine. But you know what? She will likely get accepted at a great school wothout participating in sports.
Yes, it is definitely worth it. My kids were at the top of everything…and sports were one thing in which they couldn’t be number 1. Very valuable activity for learning about pushing yourself and challenges and the rewards thereof.
Music, academics, sports, social…four very important activities and kids owe it to themselves to not leave out one.
Oh please. I have a kid who didn’t do sports after 10th grade…and he managed to get a bachelors and masters degree.
While DD did do a sport in HS, she was not able to compete at all her senior year. She never pursued this sport for one second after high school.
How do we know this OP’s daughter isn’t physically active? For all we know, she does yoga every day. Or jogs, or rides a bike.
The OP has left the room anyway…so,I doubt we will ever know.
My advice: Step away from College Confidential until her junior year.
Really, the stats and resumes you can read on these boards are just unattainable for many mere mortals…don’t let chasing stats ruin your daughter’s high school years. If the school offers more higher level courses, and she would do well in them, then I’d encourage more of those. But ONLY if she would do well, and not feel overwhelmed in them. It sounds like she’s doing great with the EC’s.
You’ll note I didn’t say that they would be a failure in life or unable to obtain either a college admission or a degree.
Gosh, a sophomore with a 4.0 UW. What more could she do? I’d say leave her alone and let her do her thing. Support her interests and let her take them as far as she can. If she gets bogged down on test scores, etc., she won’t have time to develop the things that really could set her apart.
I see a bunch of boxes: Sports? Check. Music? Check. Academics? Check. Social? Check. NO kid needs to do each and everyone all the way through to college. Come on. Some kids are not athletically inclined but still active, other can’t carry a tune in a bucket but might like music-neither enough to be a “required” EC. I shudder and laugh at the thought of me trying to be on some kind of sports team as a youth. Luckily I found ways to stay fit without my parents putting me in a box where I would not fit.
WorriedMom,
It seems that your daughter is doing very well. Do you know what she is considering studying in college or what schools she is interested in?
OP doesn’t seem to be saying much. Hello there? We are trying to have a discussion…
An SAT score of 2030 is roughly in the 95th percentile nationally. It is not low.
Your daughter could talk to her physician, and ask her if she could suggest some people to contact for shadowing experiences, volunteer work, etc. Academicians are sometimes willing to take on h.s. students for short term projects, but you really have to look around.