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Yes, we toured all the Ivies except Dartmouth and Columbia. Cornell felt the most intense to me. He really liked their program there, but a few yellow flags on fit.

Cost is essentially same to answer other question.

Brown because it is lot less stressful for a premed compared to any other school in the nation.

Yes, it has his ideal structure with open curriculum and student vibe. Headed up today for a last minute gut check, but 99% sure he is committing to Brown. If he had both options on decision day that is where he would have landed. On paper it has everything he wanted and values most, plus it was his favorite tour last year during our college visits.

Did he get scholarship at Notre Dame?

Thank you, @Lamdagamma, for sharing your child’s stats and reflections.
Wishing the best to your child.

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No, just funding for research and summer opportunities through the scholar program. Same cost.

He committed to Brown.

Ironically, while walking up hill to campus we were at a red light with 3 students. One was complaining to 2 friends about the PLME’s in his class on a project and the professor’s frustration. Maybe one of those pass/fail classes, I don’t know.

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What type of complaint? :slight_smile:

Reminded me of the age old group project and not pulling their weight as my best guess.

I am quite sure PLME’s are overall extremely hard workers, it was just so random we happened to hear that convo.

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Possible some are more laid back in pass/fail classes where others are still vying for grades, i.e., PLME people are doing pass/fail in a science class while those planning to apply to med schools want to get their A. In a group project if not all need the A it becomes an issue.

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I don’t think science classes can be taken pass/fail, they have to maintain a certain gpa in those, but can see how the scenario could play out in other coursework. I didn’t get sense kid talking was a pre-med, just another class.

If I remember correctly, PLME has very specific science classes for credit and it is not as many as what AMCAS requires. So they dont have as much pressure for required number of credit classes.

Thank you, @JD2024, for sharing your child’s stats and reflections.
All the very best.

The excerpt below is from PLME’s handbook.

Three biology courses (two if the student places out of BIOL 0200) must be completed with a grade of B or better in order to enter Alpert Medical School. Note the exception of Biochemistry (BIOL 0280) that may be taken S/NC if three other biology courses are B or better (or two if a student places out of BIOL 0200). A PLME student may opt to take Biochemistry (BIOL 0280) as one of their three biology competencies and in this case must receive a B or better.

  1. BIOL0200 The Foundation of Living Systems (place out if AP Biology Exam score of 4 or 5)
  2. (two) courses from this list:
    BIOL0470 Genetics
    BIOL0500 Cell and Molecular Biology
    BIOL0510 Introductory Microbiology
    BIOL0530 Principles of Immunology
    BIOL0800 Principles of Physiology
    BIOL1310 Developmental Biology
    BIOL1880 Comparative Biology of the Vertebrates
    NEUR0010 The Brain: An Introduction to Neuroscience
  3. BIOL0280 Introduction to Biochemistry (required)
    Note: BIOL-0280 may be taken S/NC if at least 3 other PLME biology competencies from this table have been fulfilled and the student achieves a grade of B or better

If you drop a biology competency course, you will not have received a grade of B or better. Thus, a late drop of a PLME biology competency course is considered comparable to receiving a C or NC in the course, and the student will not have fulfilled the criteria to remain in good academic standing.

The biology courses required to fulfill the biology competency must be taken at Brown during a full Fall, Spring or Summer academic session. Biology competency courses will not be accepted to fulfill the competency if taken during a ā€œtraditionalā€ Summer or Winter session.

For students who choose to take more than three biology courses, the first three (two if the student places out of BIOL 0200) taken from the approved list must be taken for a grade.

In the event that a student needs one additional biology course to complete the PLME biology competencies, and in the same semester decides to take two biology competency courses, the following holds: if the student receives an A or B in one biology competency course but a C or NC in the other biology competency course, the student will not have fulfilled the criteria to remain in good academic standing.

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@jetfang AAMC requires 1 year of biology 2 years of chemistry and 1 year of physics. The most feared ones are organic chemistry classes which force many premeds to give up their dream. What rules does PLME have for these areas?

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PLME take one semester general chem and one organic chem (assuming they have AP chem credit for one semester of chem) . Grade can be pass/fail.
Assuming they have AP biology credit, any 2 more biology classes are required with a B grade or above.
Biochemistry is a requirement.
Physics is one semester only.

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2025 parent here. Can anyone give an example of what type of student gets admitted to RPI/AMC? Is it multiple national awards & published research kind of thing? (My kid has none of that.)

Asking because my kid awarded the RPI medal from the high school (so $40k merit per year.) RPI wasn’t on the list beforehand bc they want medicine not engineering. Wondering if it’s worth looking at RPI or a waste of time. Or, do we focus on full-ride undergrad (like Bama since likely to be NMSF) And try our luck applying to MD or PA school after a bachelors?

Essentially it sounds like 3 classes required for credit compared to probably about 10 or more for an AMCAS applicant who might attend Brown.

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No school requires research papers but need good research experience in addition to strong academic record.

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FAU BSMD vs Nova BSMD. Assuming FAU is better. Any inputs appreciated.