<p>Seems that Tiger texted a lot, and texts don’t disappear though many people erroneously think they do. If the women still have the cell phones, I believe the texts can be recovered.</p>
<p>Scenario–mega-wealthy, media driven male sports ace has (unprotected?) sex with pancake house waitress (rumored to have occurred in an SUV on occasion), porno star and night club party hostesses. Not all of them younger (or much younger) than him and some not “a 10.”</p>
<p>Apparantly (breaking news), he knew that others were on to him (Men’s Fitness rumor), but continued on with this conduct. Full media disclosure could materially injure this man in multiple aspects of his life (health, monetarily, career wise and maritally), but on he goes.</p>
<p>“Don’t give a damn” or “seriously disturbed individual?”</p>
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<p>Textbook narcissist. The rules don’t apply to him, ever. And he had many people watching his back and covering for him. I’m sure that the fact that this blew up is extremely perplexing (and anger-producing) to him.</p>
<p>I read in one article that after the fight with Elin, there was not one piece of Wedgewood china left in the house. He also had destroyed a rented house when he did poorly in a golf game. </p>
<p>Disturbed. Seriously distrubed.</p>
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<p>Assuming that Tiger has a full-blown narcissitic personality disorder, (1) what is interesting about the “details” of what his disorder has done to him and (2) don’t you wish him and his family well in attempting to deal with his disorder?</p>
<p>God what a tragic mess, AND he didn’t use protection…The women didn’t INSIST on protection, plus he’s busy procreating with his wife…suppose a man like that can’t imagine a world without HIS children involved. </p>
<p>At the risk of having things thrown at me, it does really fit the profile for addiction…I hope his wife gets out of there. No amount of money penalties is going to stop an addict from this kind of behavior until they really run out of everything and hit a brick wall. I’m not even sure this is the bottome, yet…risky behavior like this…etc…</p>
<p>He needs a lot more help than he’s going to get from attorneys and accountants and don’t think Daryl Strawberry wasn’t incredibly talented as well. I’m sure there are drugs involved, but even if there aren’t? It’s still the behavior of an addict.</p>
<p>Addiction looks exactly like narcissism until the addict gets into recovery. FWIW</p>
<p>Edit to add: Nobody can help an addict to change except to refuse to enable them. The most loving action anyone can take towards an addict is to say, “I love you, but I can’t be around this. Good luck.”</p>
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<p>Check out Andy Borowitz in today’s borowitzreport dot com. VERY funny!</p>
<p>"In one of the largest mass demonstrations in recent history, over one million women claiming to have had sexual liaisons with Tiger Woods marched on Washington today. Determined to show that they are a political force to be reckoned with, the coalition of nightclub hostesses, cocktail waitresses and lingerie models stopped traffic for hours as they marched to the Capitol… the million or so mistresses of Mr. Woods who showed up at the march are just the tip of the iceberg: “A new girlfriend of Tiger’s holds a press conference every eleven seconds.”</p>
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<p>If what is wrong with Tiger is full blown narcissistic personality disorder, he is out of luck. It is not a curable thing.</p>
<p>Narcissists still have to be held accountable for their behavior. A case could be made that any person who does “bad” things has something “wrong” with him, right?</p>
<p>I don’t particularly wish Tiger well, but I do wish his wife and kids well. If it is true that he is a narcissist, there is great potential for them to be highly scarred by him. I think Elin has been already, of course. But she needs to be very careful with the kids and watch out for their interaction with their father.</p>
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<p>I disagree with your contention that Tiger has a sex addiction and not narcissism. Tiger’s narcissistic behavior goes well beyond his sexcapades. He has displayed his narcissistic behaviors in other ways. He is highly arrogant and haughty. I read where he refused to stay with other golfers in hotels and rented private homes instead. He was very blatant in his catting around, fully expecting (and paying) others to clean up after him and run interference. He shows intense anger, destroying property when he is mad. The entire pattern is one of narcissism. He has no empathy for others. None. Including his wife. I mean, he put her at great risk for contracting an STD from himself and maybe passing something on to her children during birth. This guy is way more than a simple sexual addict.</p>
<p>^^ None of that is inconsistent with being a sex addict. Possible to be extremely narcissistic, too, of course. If he gets into recovery it could sort itself out.</p>
<p>Well, there’s actually no such thing as “a simple sex addict,” anyway. addiction always cuts across many areas in a life, and many compulsive people, including successful athletes, politicians, high achievers, manifest addictions. But, that’s just my professional opinion, and you are not in any way obligated to agree with me. He needs help, but I serously doubt he’ll get it any time soon.</p>
<p>I am reminded of a quote by Abraham Lincoln, he said something like “virtually all men can pull through adversity-but the real test of character shows when they acheive power”.</p>
<p>I think that despite the publicity about his sex life, unless Tiger loses his ability to be the best golfer in the world, he will have no reason to go into treatment for whatever his emotional problems are. He is cushioned by enormous wealth (Imagine having $1 billion), fame, and hordes of gorgeous willing women and syncophants.</p>
<p>If his wife leaves, I doubt that he would care that much because he can get another wife and kids.</p>
<p>Now, if a disgruntled mistress or cuckolded husband maims Tiger so he can’t play golf or have sex again, that would be the type of pain that might cause him to reach bottom and then seriously go into treatment for his emotional problems. Given his recklessness and callousness , I wouldn’t be surprised if something like that eventually happens.</p>
<p>I bet most of the women here who are braying about Tiger being a jerk were also bending over backwards to defend Bill Clinton when he was using everything with shaved legs and a pulse for target practice during his presidency. (Same with JFK/RFK/Teddy.) </p>
<p>Tiger’s biggest faults seems to be that he isn’t a card-carrying Commie, wasn’t driving a Prius, and has earned all of his money instead of stealing it from the taxpayers.</p>
<p>“I bet most of the women here who are braying about Tiger being a jerk were also bending over backwards to defend Bill Clinton when he was using everything with shaved legs and a pulse for target practice during his presidency.”</p>
<p>Guess again. I thought Bill Clinton’s lack of self control and character is what kept him from being one of the greatest presidents ever and helped the U.S. be in the mess it’s in now.</p>
<p>I don’t know of anyone who defended what Bill Clinton did in terms of his sexual affairs. What he did was stupid, sleazy, and a calamitous distraction from important national and international issues.</p>
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<p>Or, almost as good, get pregnant. In either case, the money would roll in. For some/many, it beats the heck out of waitressing.</p>
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<p>That’s one of my favorites: “Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man’s character, give him power.”</p>
<p>Also, “Character is the way you behave when no one is looking.” (Not sure who first said that.)</p>
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<p>My bet is that despite his lawyer-written “transgression” speech, he actually has convinced himself that all of this is Elin’s fault. She was simply not a good enough lover to keep him interested.</p>
<p>And believe it or not that’s what one of his mistresses has said – if Elin had kept him satisfied, he wouldn’t have strayed!</p>
<p>Of course, I think the mistress is a nitwit.</p>
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<p>Wow. Just…wow…</p>
<p>I wonder if the news reports of lawyers working furiously to rewrite the pre-nup in the first couple of days following the initial revelations are partly because he was trying to get Elin to sign something before the rest of these women crawled out of the woodwork. If I were Elin at this point, NO amount of money in the world would induce me to stay. Or to stay silent 
My guess is that she has some pretty damaging stories to tell, and once he figured out he was “outed”, he wanted to ensure her silence at least as much as he wanted to try to get her to stick around. I hope she didn’t sign anything.</p>