<p>I don’t know if anybody else saw this, but 2 of the women he had sex with and have come out and said he did not wear a condom. My heart breaks for Elin, not only is this beingplayed out publicly, but she also needs to now worry about STDs. If this is true, and the girls who were his mistresses, I think I would be more upset that they did not protect themselves from diseases than having the affair. The relationship could be a few weeks, months, yrs of the their life…Herpes, AIDS is forever! Without a doubt I hope each woman who ever had a sexual relationship with Tiger is smart enough to get tested for every STD that exists.</p>
<p>I am really baffled by the whole situation, how can a guy who seemed to have it all behave in such a manner. Those around him did not serve him well.</p>
<p>I think he should take a year off to sort out his private affairs.</p>
<p>“Those around him did not serve him well”? We are not making excuses for a bad President or CEO. These are personal, ethical decisions on TW’s part. Nobody but Tiger decided to behave this way.</p>
<p>I wonder if Nike will keep Tiger now that it is 9+ women. One or two they can sweep under the rug or make excuses, 9+ they can’t, and women golferss make up a large bulk of their segment. If women sour on him, they will not buy a NIKE product for their DH or for themself. They will buy Callaway or PING just based on their feelings. Women are MOMS and WIVES, they will not buy his EA Games. The cliche “Nothing Like A Woman Scorn” may bite Tiger, and Nike in the a$$. </p>
<p>Also Tiger makes a large bulk of his “circuit money” in Asia. The PGA has been upset with him for several yrs because he only does the big tournaments(Masters, Open, Riders/Presidents and his own), when he does not appear the ticket sales drop. He is lucky this happening now and not March/April, because he has time on his side. He might be a great golfer, but I am not sure if it happened 4-5 months from now he would compete at Augusta.</p>
<p>HATE TO SAY IT…Tiger wants and needs Elin back more than anything for his PR image. She holds the cards now!</p>
<p>“I am really baffled by the whole situation, how can a guy who seemed to have it all behave in such a manner. Those around him did not serve him well.”</p>
<p>I think that they did a good job of hiding his behavior and true character for so many years. They did well what they were paid for.</p>
<p>I actually wonder if Parnevik knew the inside scoop…i.e. talked to Elin and that is why he said she should have hit him with a driver.</p>
<p>I know this sounds strange, but I wonder how his mother feels since Tiger is following his father’s foot steps. If our DS1 or 2 did this to their wives I would be horrified and feel guilty because we as parents failed to make them grasp that marriage is not only about love, but respect for your mate.</p>
<p>" know this sounds strange, but I wonder how his mother feels since Tiger is following his father’s foot steps."</p>
<p>Doesn’t sound strange to me. I’m the mother of sons, and one of the things I’ve thought about is how ashamed, worried, hurt, and inappropriately responsible I’d feel if Tiger were my son. Tiger’s mother also may be concerned that Elin may cut her out of the grandchildren’s lives.</p>
<p>with him spending so much time womanizing, when did he have time to parent?</p>
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<p>Isn’t their motto: “Just do it”?</p>
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<p>Yeah, but they might have to switch their motto to “Just do it. And do it. And do it. And do it. And do it. And do it. And…”</p>
<p>I think his career is over. All it takes is one person to sayone thing during his backswing on one shot per hole, and he’ll be worthless. And I’m probably about the 100 millionth person to wonder what he’ll think of when he putts and everybody yells “In the h#%&!!!”</p>
<p>He must feel like a prisoner in his own house, in his own body, and in his own life right now. The last thing he needs is all of this tsk-tsking from holier-than-thou people like some of the ones posting here. I wonder how many of them would show up if he asked them to meet him at a no-tell motel. I’m guessing most.</p>
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<p>It is interesting that there is a lot of conversation on this thread about the alpha male and biological “reality,” but a large part of what Tiger is suffering and will continue to suffer comes from the perceptions of others who disapprove of his total disregard for norms and values.</p>
<p>I remember discussing with my then young S the price you pay to act on the assumption that “the norms/rules/values don’t apply to me because I’m good at what I do.” Dennis Rodman was the poster boy at that time for NOT. Now we have TW.</p>
<p>I also agree that Elin has a lot of power right now and hope she figures out how best to use it for the kids.</p>
<p>“I wonder how many of them would show up if he asked them to meet him at a no-tell motel. I’m guessing most.”</p>
<p>Well I won’t. :)</p>
<p>Tiger doesn’t strike me as the type to go to a no-tell motel. He seems to like the best room in the best hotel.</p>
<p>07dad…exactly. you hit the nail on the head…</p>
<p>many of us are disappointed in his total disregard for norms and values. i guess we’ve come to expect that behavior out of nba stars, but not TW…</p>
<p>bet’cha he wishes he could have a “mulligan” on this whole saga…</p>
<p>“He must feel like a prisoner in his own house, in his own body, and in his own life right now. The last thing he needs is all of this tsk-tsking from holier-than-thou people like some of the ones posting here. I wonder how many of them would show up if he asked them to meet him at a no-tell motel. I’m guessing most.”</p>
<p>I am amazed that Tiger has time to continue posting here. :)</p>
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<p>You have mentioned that Elin/Tiger should act in the best interests of the kids and I agree. I get the sense that you feel it is best for her to stay with Tiger so the kids have the family unit intact. I would appreciate it if you would expand on that thought.</p>
<p>Since the kids are so young I wonder if they wouldn’t be better off with Elin in another locale with a new husband/father figure–someone who would be there to ask about their day to day existance and go to their events–while not cutting Tiger out of the picture. He would see them during his visitation time probably on some gorgeous golf course and then send them back to the stability of their home.</p>
<p>I think it would be a bad environment for them to grow up in an environment where their mom doesn’t trust their dad, him traveling all the time, tension etc etc</p>
<p>Things might be better in the other country - Tiger could go there to visit without all of the intense media scrutiny that he will have over here. Computer video chat can provide for routine conversation on a regular basis.</p>
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<p>Meh, I’m trying so hard to feel sorry for him, Schmaltz, but it’s just not happening. Can’t imagine why, LOL!!!</p>
<p>busyparent–I appreciate your interest. I disclosed that I am an alcoholic in recovery. So, my start point is that I have a belief (and hope) that people who really want to work to overcome serious problems can do so. I also stopped drinking 5 years before my S was born. So, I did not put my S at risk (physically, emotionally or otherwise) by my compulsive/addictive/destructive behavior.</p>
<p>As this mess has unfolded (and the more so in the last 4 days), I now have serious doubts that Tiger and Elin can survive this. Everything that might help another couple get past a marital infidelity seems to be missing.</p>
<p>If Tiger is currently engaged in a fraction of what the “dirt” we read indicates, he would also seem to be a threat to the well-being of thoses kids. If I were Elin, I would seek out the best mental health professional and work to see what arrangement was the best for the kids. I would then hope she would be able to follow through on what is best for them.</p>
<p>IMO–some (many?) kids get “permission” from watching and/or experiencing a parent’s unhealthy behavior. If Tiger continues on the path he appeares to be on, I would assume the best thing might be to not have the kids experiencing this behavior.</p>
<p>As many have mentioned, so far we actually don’t know that Elin went after him physically with a golf club. If she did, she needs counseling on that for her kids’ sake no matter how much we can sympathize with what she is going through.</p>