<p>I know. He went from being considered arrogant but classy to just being skeevy in the course of a couple of weeks. amazing.</p>
<p>This scandal has no let up. I just read a report which who knows if it is true or not, that Elin’s family wants the couple to stay together for the kids’ sake and that both Tiger and Elin may be leaving the country to escape the scandal. Stay tuned…
Now for a commercial break from…uh, Nike?</p>
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<p>Marital faux-pas (forevermore “mfp”) means unprotected sex with a very substantial number of 20-30+ y.o. females over the first 5-6 years of marriage and while your wife is having your two (2) kids??? Must of missed that part of pre-marriage class.</p>
<p>I thought a * mfp* was like the husband leaving the toilet seat up in the master bathroom or volunteering to be the one to go out on the deck and tell the topless Norwegian au pair about American customs, or the wife throwing away husband’s favorite moth-eaten sweater from before marriage.</p>
<p>Does a mfp include a husband fathering children with other women while married or the wife bearing some other man’s child while married? I can’t believe I missed that part of the pre-marriage class, damn.</p>
<p>Hi,—wanna mfp? What a line!!!</p>
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Seems when it rains, it pours. Wonder what he told each of the girlfriends to make them each feel so special and important to him that they would stay silent… until this house of cards came falling down. I like your “ick meter” gauge. Great phrase.</p>
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Whatever Tiger and Elin decide, I wish them the best, but if they are staying together “for the sake of the children” in what has all the risk factors for being a disengaged, dysfunctional, trustless unhealthy marriage, that is often bad for the children. There are lots of studies on this, and on children of depressed mothers, that address the higher risk of bad outcomes, emotional/adjustment/relationshhip problems for the children of these marriages. Ouch.</p>
<p>“Whatever Tiger and Elin decide, I wish them the best, but if they are staying together “for the sake of the children” in what has all the risk factors for being a disengaged, dysfunctional, trustless unhealthy marriage, that is often bad for the children. T”</p>
<p>I can’t imagine it could possibly be good for the children for their mom to stay married to a man who has been exposed to the world as a liar and a serial cheater who brings mistresses to his family home, doesn’t use condoms or find out if his many mistresses are using birth control.</p>
<p>I also doubt that Elin’s family is suggesting that she stay with him. Sounds like a fabricated story that Tiger’s well paid minions are spreading around as they desperately try to do damage control.</p>
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<p>I take it you don’t buy the–he’s an alpha-male, just doing what married alpha-males do?</p>
<p>How about, --it’s merely mfp-ing (see post 943), so no biggie?</p>
<p>No? Would you buy-- an “average” Norwegian women would be OK with this, so TW has a valid complaint if Elin isn’t (sort of a cultural false advertizing or, bait and switch idea)?</p>
<p>Or, seriously sick dude?</p>
<p>My personal opinion is that Tiger is an addict…to sex and probably MORE than sex.</p>
<p>As you and I both know, people have an image of addicts as living in boxes on the street, and really don’t understand how incredibly pervasive it is for compulsively successful people to end up in treatment. It keeps them feeling safe, I think.</p>
<p>However, I think Tiger is very ill. And I hope he gets some help.</p>
<p>That’s the serious version…though I’m not defending this position against toneranger…anymore. So, for the purposes of this thread? Just ewwwwwww. :)</p>
<p>I go back to self sabotage - he had to keep going until he got caught.</p>
<p>poetgrl…if there’s help for him to get… I hope he gets it. No doubt that his behavior is ruining his life right now. As you know, I’m quite sure I would not use the word “sick” but he is troubled for sure. I DON"T agree that this is normal male behavior…
Might just be semantics here…
Signed, you friendly neighborhood CC addict</p>
<p>I think TW is just full of himself. He’s not an addict. He has no character. He cares only about his own needs. He was very willing to put his family at risk. All the girls fit the same mold. You could say he was addicted to long-haired, attractive, a-bit trashy-looking (IMO) nice-figured women…or you could say he’s an … who thought he could get away with it.</p>
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<p>Say what? So many racist posts? </p>
<p>I am assuming that you missed the part that my posts are actually denouncing the people who have used race selectively as an excuse to defend people who happen to have similar agendas.</p>
<p>Perhaps I should be less subtle.</p>
<p>I don’t think you have been subtle at all. I understood who you were addressing from the get go. </p>
<p>I think it is one thing to admonish public figures and another to discuss or “denounce” other CC members.</p>
<p>I was traveling this weekend – at one of the airports there were life-size ads with Tiger Woods’ image, just steps away from the newsstand displays with his scandal on the front of many magazines. It was hard to look at those ads and not think about his philandering – which is not, I am sure, what those sponsors are paying him for. If this scandal continues, it’s hard to believe that these sponsors are going to want to continue to use his image.</p>
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<p>Ah, a badly needed laugh in a thread that has become overly serious. :D</p>
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<p>That is a difference I understand quite well, and especially the different degrees of viciousness and the lack of foundation or evidence. </p>
<p>Fwiw, I am still wondering why different standards are used when judging famous people. </p>
<p>Who is it who wrote, “Is the bigger issue here the fact that some white people – including some in the media – explode with glee when any acomplished black person does anything remotely wrong?” in a thread about the pugilist Columbia professor?</p>
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<p>Well, for starters, as you know, CC’s TOS stipulate to not discuss other members. But discussing famous people is permitted as far as I know. Just saying.</p>
<p>But, carry on!</p>
<p>I use the exact same standards for famous and non-famous people when I judge them on personal flaws. However, I think that famous people abuse their power to a level where they sweep their failures under a rug by using those around them to hold the broom and dust pan. </p>
<p>Tiger IMVHO has an emotional issue, I don’t fall for the sex addict, but I believe it was his own personal belief that he could get a way with it because he is TW. Unfortunately he also has enablers around him to allow it. I have said it before, if Tiger was a golf pro at the local country club with a wife, 2 small children and an 8 yr old car how many of those women would be willing to lie down with him, let alone do it with no protection…my bet would be maybe 1 out of the 11. His fame and money is what they were attracted to, not TW the person. It was as much as a feather in their cap to “win” TW as it was a “rush” to TW that he could have anyone.</p>
<p>Here’s my question, I get Mistress #1, and 2 coming out, but why #8,9,10, and 11? Seriously, at this point if it was me, I would hide in a closet and say to myself, it never happened. Why do you want to have the media camped at your door, or people calling you deragotory names? Would any of us want strangers calling us up at home and leaving messages using words like whore, slut, etc.? The only reason I can see them doing it is if they are under the belief that the media has portrayed that he paid off Udital to not have the news conference. If that is the case than it supports my position they did it for reasons that had nothing to do with human emotion.</p>
<p>Regarding mfp part. I think this is no longer a faux pas but a gaffe or bourde.
[Faux</a> pas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faux_pas]Faux”>Faux pas - Wikipedia)</p>
<p>When I was younger, I wanted to be beautiful, rich, famous, and extremely talented. The older I got, the more I realized what burdens and temptations came with those things. I am glad that I am not beautiful, rich, famous or extremely talented. I think it takes a person with extraordinary integrity to maintain a good character with all of the opportunities those gifts bring. If I had the power and opportunities those gifts bring, I don’t think I would have the character to withstand the temptations. </p>
<p>So, I am very grateful for my ordinary looks and life.</p>
<p>I am sure these women would love to be ORDINARY now! Rachel Uchital has now released a statement saying her life has been ruined, she has been labeled a gold digger, home wrecker, a whore and a prostitute, and that she is none of them.</p>
<p>Maybe not, but the minute she hired Gloria Allred to represent her, and then cancelled the news conference she stoked the fire on that image.</p>
<p>Am I the only one wondering about Elin’s mother and the 911 call? First off, it happened at 2:30 a.m., which makes me wonder what was going on in the home that they were up. 2nd, she is reported to have arrived at the hospital on her own. 3rd, people have stated she moved out, but the ambulance went to their home…I am wondering if she kicked Tiger out. 4th, they have announced her mother is a county governor in Sweden and will be returning home next week. Is she here to help Elin move out, since Elin in the last month or 2 settled on a $2 million mansion in Sweden.</p>