Tiger Woods

<p>A lawsuit against Tiger’s floosies for ‘Alienation of Affection,’ anyone?</p>

<p>Forgotten about, no. Probably will always be the first thing I think about when I see him on TV.</p>

<p>This is the first celebrity in my lifetime that ever really was able to surprise me. I feel let down and disappointed that he was not the man i believed him to be. Pretty funny since i only ever saw him golf on TV and had no other knowledge of him besides wht the media fed me.</p>

<p>Some people on the other hand will only be interested in his golf game and will quickly make these events a foootnote.</p>

<p>Tiger’s situation is a lot different than Kobe’s. A lot of people felt that he was the victim of a false accuser and prosecution and he gets some brownie points for that (probably not from his wife). He put on a good full-court press in the media instead of hiding and that worked well for him.</p>

<p>I find it interesting to assume that Tiger will remain as good a golfer as he once was. Golf is a mental game as well as physical. I actually wonder if he will ever golf as well, again. From what I understand, his game is on the down side of the hill now anyway…</p>

<p>He has always lived from a very settled basic life where all the distractions have been of his own making and the people around him have spent thier time creating whatever kind of settled…ness he needed in order to live as the center of the universe. It should be interesing to see how he handles golfing from a chaotic homelife. People may be surprised how disruptive this will be. </p>

<p>In fact, that settledness is the real reason men marry, btw…and why married men are far more successful and measure far higher in all studies of emotional well-being. If he can find a woman who doesn’t mind if he has extra-curricular relationships, and uprotected sex, then she gets what she deserves.</p>

<p>Toneranger, I think there are plenty of women who put up with serial adulterers for husbands. I certainly have known quite a few over the years. They like the perks of marriage and are perfectly willing to look the other way. What’s different about them (from Elin’s situation) is that their philandering husbands aren’t in the public eye. I don’t know how they’d handle it if “everybody” knew, although in their social circles people do know.</p>

<p>I am curious about the happenings at the wedding of his childhood friend this weekend in SC. His friend was the one who booked Rachel’s travel plans to Australia. You have to assume that was not the first time he helped cover up for his friend Tiger. How would you feel if you were the bride at this event? Would you marry someone who had assisted in this kind of behavior? I’d run for the hills and thank God I found out now!</p>

<p>BTW, Tiger was supposed to be the best man at the wedding.</p>

<p>I think that this is the reason why Edwards is persona non grata now. He had his friends cover for him and now they have egg on their face. Imagine that you’re publicly stating that you had an affair with a lady and got her pregnant to cover for a friend. Imagine how your wife would feel about that one, even if she knew that you were just covering for a big shot.</p>

<p>Given that Tiger’s bachelor party allegedly included a porn star whom Tiger had sex with in the same room that another friend was having sex with a woman, I’m also assuming that there’s a good chance that his best friend was there and may have planned a similar party to celebrate his own upcoming wedding.</p>

<p>poetgrl, I actually was thinking about this and wondering how BEFORE the scandal even broke, how Tiger managed all these comings and goings in his extracurricular life and still stayed focused on golf which is a very mental game and he excels at it. Now it is all public and so even harder I would imagine. </p>

<p>rom828, that is an interesting question as to what the bride may think about her fiance having helped his buddy arrange for mistress liasons.</p>

<p>“What’s different about them (from Elin’s situation) is that their philandering husbands aren’t in the public eye. I don’t know how they’d handle it if “everybody” knew, although in their social circles people do know.”</p>

<p>Their husbands also may not have been having sex with porn stars as well as unprotected sex with a variety of women the men had known for an evening.</p>

<p>"how Tiger managed all these comings and goings in his extracurricular life and still stayed focused on golf which is a very mental game and he excels at it. Now it is all public and so even harder I would imagine. "</p>

<p>I’m thinking that with the amount of physical and emotional energy going to golf and mistresses, he probably didn’t have much to offer his wife and kids.</p>

<p>I DO think Elin’s situation is far worse because of the multiple mistresses, as well as because it is all PUBLIC, even though it is not great for an ordinary wife to find out privately about one affair.</p>

<p>“How many people here believe like me that 3 years from now, Tiger will have lots of sponsorships, another classy, beautiful wife who’s more tolerant than Elin, and most people will have forgotten about this scandal?”</p>

<p>I forgot to add to the above, he also will have made more public apologies, have declared himself a sex addict who’s in treatment, and have joined a conservative Christian church (He’s now Buddhist) and become a regular participant there with his classy, beautiful, tolerant new wife.</p>

<p>Yes, I think this will happen, and people will forget about this scandal. Given the state of the world and technology, after 3 years have passed, we’ll all be preoccupied with another scandal by a public figure. Tiger’s will have been forgotten or by comparison will seem so tame that no one will care about it any more.</p>

<p>I heard on Entertainment Tonight (yes I actually watched it to see more TW speculation, while treadmilling so not a complete waste of time!) last night that Tiger’s broken tooth and bloody mouth were caused by Elin throwing a cell phone at him after she called Rachel. As Tiger loses endorsements, maybe Elin will pick up endorsements…AT&T or Verizon perhaps?</p>

<p>ET also said that commercials featuring TW had been pulled from the major networks since this all broke. Looks like all those emails cc’ers are sending to Nike and co. are working.</p>

<p>mantori, thanks for the little diorama post a few pages back…made my morning!</p>

<p>“They like the perks of marriage and are perfectly willing to look the other way”.
Do you personally know any of these women? I certainly don’t. Most of the couples I know are two income…so that may be the reason. The old fashioned model (wife stays home, hubby makes all the money) is still out there and can contribute to tolerance for philandering. Most of the guys AND ladies I know are too tired to find the time for wandering…really. Maybe an office affair here and there, but not serial dates with waitresses and porn stars.
I think this is lasting for Tiger. It’s so much more than what Kobe did. I hope it DOES screw up his golf game…then he would get what he truly deserves. Because NOBODY wants to want to watch a Cheetah who is also a Loosah…</p>

<p>If this is true, I feel even more sorry than I did before for her and the kids. She is a very naive woman. There certainly would be ways of including Tiger in his kids’ lives without staying married to him.</p>

<p>"Despite her husband’s growing list of alleged mistresses, Tiger Woods’ wife has decided to stay put.</p>

<p>People magazine, out Friday, reports that Elin Nordegren plans to stay married to Woods for the sake of their children. </p>

<p>According to People, the Swedish model herself is a “child of divorce” whose parents split when she was 6 years old.</p>

<p>“That’s not something she’s likely going to want to do to [her children with Woods] Sam and Charlie,” a close friend of Nordegren tells People. “She really believes in the importance of parents staying together.”</p>

<p>Nordegren is not the only one who has her family’s best interests in mind. Woods is reportedly genuinely sorry for cheating on his wife (numerous times) and is determined to keep his family together.</p>

<p>“He’s not perfect; we all know that now," a source close to the golfer tells People. "But he’s a good father, and he wants to be a good husband, too.”</p>

<p>The couple wed in 2004 and have two kids – Sam, 2, and Charlie, 10 months.</p>

<p>Nordegren’s friends tell People she knew about Woods’ extracurricular activities but that he promised before their marriage that he would change.</p>

<p>“Elin had talked to other golfers and their wives about Tiger’s wild parties,” a friend told the magazine. “When she asked Tiger about it, he said he would stop doing it. And she believed him. But he never did.”</p>

<p>Read more: [Tiger</a> Woods’ wife Elin Nordegren to stay with him for the kids: report](<a href=“http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2009/12/10/2009-12-10_tiger_woods_wife_elin_nordegren_to_stay_for_the_kids_report.html#ixzz0ZIijHpRo]Tiger”>http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2009/12/10/2009-12-10_tiger_woods_wife_elin_nordegren_to_stay_for_the_kids_report.html#ixzz0ZIijHpRo)</p>

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I know several women in that situation. One is the wife of one of the most famous men in the country. It works for them both, for various reasons, but neither was naive.</p>

<p>“How many people here believe like me that 3 years from now, Tiger will have lots of sponsorships, another classy, beautiful wife who’s more tolerant than Elin, and most people will have forgotten about this scandal?”</p>

<p>It won’t even take that long. As soon as the media jumps on the next scandal and he wins a few tournaments, he’s back in favor. As an example, Chris Brown’s public abuse of Rhianna doesn’t seem to be hurting sales of his new album.</p>

<p>“Elin had talked to other golfers and their wives about Tiger’s wild parties,” a friend told the magazine. “When she asked Tiger about it, he said he would stop doing it. And she believed him. But he never did.”</p>

<p>Wow, so what makes Elin think that a promise now that he’ll stop will be any different? I respect her for trying to provide a close family environment for her children but I don’t know that I could ever fully trust him again given the situation if the reports are true.</p>

<p>And what about what he said to Rachel allegedly in the texts, something along the lines of I’ve never felt the connection we have with anybody, “not even at home”. Geez how do you get past that.</p>

<p>Maybe Tiger’s golf game and endorsements will recover but I know that I’ll never look at him in the same way even if Elin stays with him.</p>

<p>"Wow, so what makes Elin think that a promise now that he’ll stop will be any different? "</p>

<p>She’s very naive to continue to expect Tiger to change his stripes.</p>

<p>I wonder if Elin’s plans to stay with Tiger are why Elin’s mother had to be rushed to the hospital. </p>

<p>Of course, the stories about Elin’s plans to stay with Tiger could be lies planted by Tiger’s minions. Maybe Tiger thinks that will keep more companies from bailing out of their sponsorship contracts.</p>

<p>OK–well, NOW comes the true test for Tiger and Elin. </p>

<p>If you assume that Elin has decided to stay, even in light of the exposure of the details of Tiger’s infidelity, what Tiger does from this point forward will shed a lot of light on whether his prior conduct was biologically pre-determined as an alpha-male, sleaze because he thought he wouldn’t get caught (or didn’t really care), addiction (so that he can stop the conduct and work on the issues) or a true personality disorder (such that he won’t be able to stick to this latest commitment).</p>

<p>I’m hoping that it works for the couple and their kids. If it takes moving to Norway, I say go. Will I ever look at TW the same again? No. But, if these people can survive this and change to the point that they both are positive influences on their kids, they will have done something that I will acknowledge is phenomenal</p>