<p>Does that mean harvard, MIT, princeton etc are not prestigious?</p>
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I guarantee you that Duke has more name recognition outside the states than Northwestern. If anything, because of Duke’s superb med school and basketball team…</p>
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<p>Yes, because I hear that most countries are interested in American college basketball.</p>
<p>Uh no, I meant because Coach K(Duke’s Mens Basketball Coach) was the coach for the US Olympic Basketball squad in Beijing this past summer. The Chinese ARE CRAZY about NBA stars and the sport in general. I’m sure this raised the reputation of Duke among the Chinese significantly.</p>
<p>I don’t think so. They’re crazy about Kobe and Yao. </p>
<p>I’m pretty sure most don’t even know that coach was from duke.</p>
<p>Maybe Duke has more name recognition than Northwestern has in some countries, but in general, they are equally just as prestigious. </p>
<p>For example, UCLA is widely known for its strong basketball program, not just in the US but throughout the rest of the world, yet it does not register the same prestige level as UC Berkeley or Stanford do. </p>
<p>Basketball, football and whatnot would only help increase the school’s name recognition, but it does not increase the school’s prestige level that much. Otherwise, everyone would just be heading to UCLA, Duke, Notre Dame, USC instead of Harvard, Yale or Berkeley.</p>
<p>There is so much talk about Michigan being in the top fifteen, but isnt UVA more highly regarded than UM?</p>
<p>Internationally, Duke is definitely more well-known than Northwestern, though I can’t say for sure if they are considered more prestigious, because a lot of people worldwide know Duke through its sports (and yes, Coach K as well).</p>
<p>ring<em>of</em>fire: Duke’s superb medical school is not exactly the talk of the town by any means. When people mention prestigious medical schools, even in the U.S., the first that come to mind are Harvard, Hopkins, WashU, and maybe UPenn/Columbia.
In terms of SPORTS, no one outside of the U.S. cares about US COLLEGE sports. They probably heard that coach was from Duke, and just wondered: “Is that in Europe or something?” and scratched their heads.
In the U.S., of course, everyone knows sports, but then again, schools like Ohio State are famous for sports…and they’re not exactly “prestigious” are they?
The thing is that while Duke has many many great grad schools, they fail to extremely standout in any one area. In Law, they are overshadowed by Harvard and yale. In med, they are outshined by harvard, hopkins, washu, and penn. In business and wall street, you have Penn, Harvard, and Dartmouth among others. In Engineering, you have MIT, Caltech, Berkeley, Stanford…, In IR you have Georgetown, Columbia, Princeton, Hopkins, Tufts…, catch my drift?</p>
<p>Duke is a great all-around school, but because of lack of standouts, it just isn’t on the tongues of major professors worldwide who look to the leading US schools for pioneering innovation.
Northwestern, on the other hand, is pretty well-known for journalism, its Kellog school which has locations in Hong Kong, and just these two fields of standout work make it that much more of a well-known and prestigious name worldwide.</p>
<p>Northwestern’s clout may be bigger in Asia (Northwestern MBA alliance with HKUST in Hong Kong, arguably the best MBA program available in Asia).</p>
<p>Duke University Medical center is top 10. It’s strong, but doesn’t have the clout of other powerhouses in Medicine such as Johns Hopkins Hospital, Cleveland Clinic, Mayo Clinic, Harvard MGH, Beth Deaconess, etc… etc… .</p>
<p>The internationally renown Johns Hopkins Hospital (#1 in the country) that attract royal Princes and foreign dignitaries from across the globe seeking the best Specialty Doctors in the nation. The Mayo Clinic which attracts renown very famous superstars/celebrities to get treated in it’s world class facilities etc… etc… Duke’s medical center doesn’t have that sort of pull Mayo, Hopkins, or Cleveland has with it’s medical facilities etc…</p>
<p>I’m pretty sure ppl have not heard of Duke basketball in Asia.</p>
<p>I think that LACs need more representation here. Amherst/Williams/Swarthmore are on par with the Ivies.</p>
<p>^^ note the title: “universities”</p>
<p>you can make a separate thread if you want.</p>
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For undergrad, maybe they are on par. But for everything else, Michigan > UVa. This is even more true when viewed internationally.</p>
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But people who have heard of both will consider them both equally as prestigious. Northwestern has gained it prestige through it’s top-notched MBA program. Of course, it also has an excellent and well-selected undergrad student body. A series of postgrad programs at NU are considered world-class too.</p>
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This is definitely true. Harvard, JHU and UC San Francisco are much more regarded than Duke for med school education. Even Yale and UCLA have more prestige than Duke has for med school education.</p>
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<p>lol, that’s stretching it.</p>
<p>Where did Ted Kennedy turn to when he needed neurosurgery? THE DUKE UNIVERSITY MEDICAL CENTER!</p>
<p>No one remembers the actual rankings for med schools but Duke is right up there with Harvard and JHU.</p>
<p>eatsalot,</p>
<p>my post was referenced from the view of people internationally.
Yale and UCLA Med are quite a respected and well-known names internationally. You probably did not know that.</p>
<p>Ted Kennedy is also American. I doubt the rest of the world gives a **** where an American senator got his surgery.</p>
<p>Hopkins, ucla, harvard dominate internationally for medicine.</p>
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Well yeah, if you read the rest of my sentence, I acknowledged that this might not necessarily make them more prestigious. :)</p>
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I equally doubt students at Duke or Northwestern give two rusty nickels about what people in Thailand think of their universities. The vast majority of students seek jobs in the US or in major cities with major firms that are familiar with most of the top American universities. </p>
<p>I’m not sure when international prestige entered this thread, but I’d be willing to bet someone brought it up to boost Berkeley, UCLA, Johns Hopkins, and/or Michigan. I’m really not sure why people are pushing those schools quite so hard – NYU, for example, has considerably more name recognition and prestige abroad than either Johns Hopkins or Michigan.</p>
<p>For most students, it’s domestic prestige that counts. As I said earlier, those 15 are fairly obvious.</p>
<p>8 Ivies (Brown, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth, Harvard, Penn, Princeton, Yale)
5 elite privates (Caltech, Chicago, Duke, MIT, Stanford)
2 others (Berkeley, Johns Hopkins, Michigan, and/or Northwestern)</p>
<p>IBClass06, was your list for undergrad or for combined undergrad, postgrad and professional education as viewed locally?</p>