Starting next year’s thread early as my DD25(29) is putting together her list. I have DS23(27) on TE at Pitt, DD25 is a completely different target group. She will be in the 3.7-3.8UW/4.3-4.4W range, 33ACT, NMCS, ok ECs (sport, job, 3 clubs). No big awards, just a solid top ~10% student. She wants URBAN and business/marketing is her intended major. She is artistic, too, not sure where that will play in.
She’s looking at:
DePaul (home)
Duquesne
SJU (Phil)
Suffolk
Investigating:
BU (big reach for her to receive TE here)
Pitt (see above)
Drexel
Xavier
Butler (She doesn’t like it bc it has “but” in it… anyone else have ridiculous kids?!?)
St Josephs NY
Syracuse
Just a FYI on Drexel. We also went for TE there. They did let us know right away that we didn’t get it (we were admitted EA). Even with TE I believe they are set rate and pretty expensive. We did get merit and some need aid but still out of reach financially.
Yep, I have 61K tution and set rate, which would bring it to 17K tuiton. And a note that they don’t stack… and the kicker on top of that is a CSS school, which is excruciating with divorced parents
D25 is getting her list together as well. She is at a small private high school, class of 21, with a 3.91 UW. No AP’s available, but will have 18 DE credits at graduation. One sport, leadership award, multiple honors societies, 300 volunteer hours. Data Analytics major/marketing minor.
List:
Syracuse
Pitt
Seton Hall
Providence
American
GW
Richmond
Fordham
Loyola MD
Loyola Chicago
Stevens
If anyone has any suggestions please send them our way. D25 is looking for mid-large size and urban.
Although the northeast dominates your list, I do see Loyola Chicago there, which I’m going to use to expand the geography into the midwest. These are some other schools your D may want to check out.
Boston U (MA): Set rate, below 10% receive
Butler (IN): Full tuition in Indianapolis, below 10% receive
Case Western (OH): Set rate in Cleveland, 11-40% receive
Creighton (NE): Full tuition in Omaha, 11-40% receive
DePaul (IL): Other tuition in Chicago, 11-40% receive
Duquesne (PA ): Full tuition in Pittsburgh, below 10% receive
Marquette (WI): Full tuition in Milwaukee, below 10% receive
Rochester Institute of Technology (NY): Set rate, 11-40% receive
Saint Joseph’s (PA ): Full tuition in Philadelphia, 11-40% receive
Saint Louis (MO): Full tuition, 11-40% receive
Suffolk (MA): Full tuition in Boston, 11-40% receive
Temple (PA ): Full tuition in Philadelphia, below 10% receive
U. of Dayton (OH): Set rate, below 10% receive
U. of Delaware: Full tuition, below 10% receive
U. of St. Thomas (MN): Full tuition in St. Paul, below 10% receive
Xavier (OH): Full tuition in Cincinnati, 11-40% receive
I am curious if anyone else is in the same boat as me in terms of strategizing how to best leverage that Home Institution has both TE and CIC-TEP available to us. There are some schools of interest to us that are on both lists that are Full Tuition with CIC but not with TE (e.g. Allegheny), so that’s a no-brainer, that would go on the CIC but not TE list. (Only considering “full tuition” or something very closely approximating that for the TE route – 42k a year is lovely but not sufficient for us for schools with tuition upward of 50k).
But then there are also a number of schools where full tuition is offered via both routes. So that requires some consideration, given that the number of TE applications is capped.
I have gotten feedback that if someone can apply to both pools, they should do that, but I don’t know that it makes sense to do that except maybe for the #1 or #2 choices. Right now S25 likes Drew University best out of the handful of schools he has visited (more visits to come) – so if he still feels that way come fall, I guess it would make sense to “spend” a TE slot on Drew even though it’s in the CIC pool as well. But I am not sure how to do this “math” with regard to other schools of interest – is it better to apply via both systems when the option is available, or diversify the application pool more, and use the TE slots for schools that are not available via CIC?
So just wondering if anyone else is in the same situation, and what your thought process is around this?
I don’t know if this helps, we have both TE and CIC available at Duquesne and when I asked the financial aid officer if we should apply to both, she encouraged me to do so. I think it gives them more flexibility to grant money to your child, so it increases the chances for a better financial aid package. So I agree for your top choices I would definitely apply for both.
For the rest of the list, you could use the diversification strategy. How many colleges do you plan to apply to? Some apply 20 or more. I have a personal limit of 12-15 because we did this application process w S23 and I find it exhausting (we did 12). If you only apply 12-15, then 10 TE slots will cover most of your choices.
I would rather focus on having a good list of schools where 1) your kid likes/loves the schools 2) you are likely to get TE or CIC. The latter one is hard to gauge, but the Excel spreadsheet from last year’s thread and reading CC helps.
We plan on using all 10 TE slots and probably 3-4 CIC schools. But if I duplicated all 3-4 CIC schools on the TE list, that would leave less room for “diversification.” So just thinking through what to do for schools like U Scranton, which is on the list but not currently at the top of the list (and is an 11-40% school for TE) – just apply there through CIC, and save that TE space for another school that may be <10% and thus less likely? Not sure! This is behavioral economics type math I am terrible at.
Our financial aid officer said the same thing as yours btw…and also said that typically when people apply via both, they get TE, and that CIC tends to be reserved for those who don’t have an alternative. (Worth noting that ours is a set rate school for TE – though our tuition is on the lower side for private schools --but still higher than the set rate).
This is so helpful. We have both as well and our liaison is new so not very knowledgeable. My daughter ninjas one or 2 that are TE only and the rest are on both.
Wasn’t it on this thread somewhere that someone said Drew for TE includes the room and board as well? Not sure if that still applies or if it is the same for CIC but what a great award that would be!
Have you reached out to your school’s TE officer and the TE exchange program itself? I know in last year’s TE thread there were university TE representatives who thought that there was a limit of 10 TE slots, but didn’t realize that more than one form could be submitted (thus, allowing people to apply to more than 10 slots). But, if your university itself is imposing the cap, that’s something else.
This is the TE page that lists all the participating schools (and it’s a list of participating schools, not meeting the staff…don’t know why it says that): Tuition Exchange - Meet the Staff
Once you select a particular school, it will specify the percentage of new students who receive a TE scholarship.
If you go to the search schools function, you can also look for schools by the percentage of students who are awarded TE, if you’re trying to build a more balanced list (with respect to chances of getting TE).
Looking at the TE Results spreadsheet, it appears as though you were able to submit more than 10 TE applications. If that was the case, how was it done?
Well that one is wrong for us but we did end up originally starting at 11. Our school allows it. We just did 10 on one TE thing and then the additional 1 on another.
Do you have a reference where you read this? I thought our home institution doesn’t limit the number of schools, but we never tested that as we only applied to eight.
