295 off waitlist is the last data I see…for class starting fall 2024. Out of 4000 who accepted a spot on the waitlist
Waitlisted OOS, congrats to all who got in!!
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Accepted OOS: D26 4.0uw, 4.5w 1560 SAT, 12 APs (including 5 in senior and 5’s on other 7) 3 DEs. Good ECs, Leadership, recs, community service.
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Hi all, I’m looking for experience with or insights into the joint BME program with NC State.
My daughter is strongly considering it but it seems like such a different sort of engineering experience, I want to see what I can offer so she’s well informed. Does anyone know where to look or who might know?
Our son is looking at the same program . My wife just shared a link to a podcast … The BME Grad Podcast. Season 4 Episode 12 - Sharing Senior Wisdom from the Class of 2025. I haven’t listened yet but it is specific to the UNC BME program… might be worth a listen.
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Oh, thank you so much! It seems like such an interesting option. Lots to think about.
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I have a co-worker whose daughter was on the NC State side of the BME program. She enjoyed it very much from what i have heard but since she was a State student, i am not sure if her thoughts matter for this discussion.
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Yes, we’ve been wondering specifically about what it might be like to be an engineering student at a school with no college of engineering of its own. seems like there are some interesting potential tradeoffs!
Looking forward to listening to the podcast episode, thanks again.
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Rank matters a lot. Your GPA seems to be very good. I believe you have great chance.
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You are absolutely right. UNC appears to be rank heavy. Our school gave list of all NC colleges and their average accepted gpa. UNC has 4.0 unweighted GPA. This might be different for different school as many people got in less than 4. May be this is a easier way to discrimanate among highly competitive applications. We are also in same situation even with 1560 SAT we were rejected @UNC and able to get into oos college (top 10) with scholarship. My childs GPA is 3.8+ (UW)this means she scored less in GPA and RANK and likely rejected though she has other excellent metrics. Most of her Bs are in 9 grade. she did well later on.
UNC does NOT have a 4.0 unweighted GPA. Whoever gave you that misinterpreted the Common Data Set. UNC only reports weighted GPA on their data set. That said, the GPA is likely around a 3.9 or so, so it’s still very high. Weighted matters a lot too, but what they’re looking for will depend on how many AP or DE classes you’re able to take at your school. For more competitive districts, you’ll need a 4.5+, but for more rural schools, many have a 4.3-4.4. They also don’t want to see very many Bs. I would say 2-3 at most, and they shouldn’t be in easy classes (even honors).
Again schools give this information to students everyyear. So, they actually may know what it may take for their students to admit into these universities. I said the gpa requirment may change depending on the school.
looking at students growth by counting howmany Bs is very lame.
Okay? Each school is different, so I am just giving info on what we’ve seen. UNC does not admit students with more than a few Bs, except for athletes and maybe a few cases where it makes sense and there is a compelling story to accompany it. They don’t seem to look at growth - they look for students who have been consistently strong.
I am sure they give that info every year because the Common Data Set has a place that says something that, but below it, you can clearly see they use weighted gpa. If you use the Insight tool for NC, you can see actual average gpas of admitted students by county. That is much more accurate.
I have hard time believing that Elite schools like UNC would decide on applicants fate by counting B’s. I would rather believe that they may have certain mandate to meet the requirements of the state (much like UT, Austin). Ranking and GPA helps to meet them. When they say wholisting they mean Wholistic … but.. Also the our school explicitly states that 4.0 unweighted GPA. I looked at their commondataset. It is not clear. It says on the scale of 4. weighted gpa is measured on the scale of 5.
Incorrect. Weighted GPAs are still on a scale of 4 in North Carolina.
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all the students who got in from our school is
this is so confusing. our school counselor said weighted gpa is on a scale of 5. It is acually 4.5 for honors and 5 for ap/dual enrollment.
That’s like Florida. Then it’s on a 5 weighted scale. You’d get a .5 bump for Honors and a full point for AP.
To give you a comparator since the schools are similarly ranked, UF has a 25/75 4.5-4.7.
So if UNC uses that same scale, I’d expect a similar gpa range - meaning mostly Honors with a healthy dose of AP mixed in.
I don’t know that they use that scale but going by your comment. I’d imagine UNC #s would be a bit higher as it’s more defective - the big difference is it’s TO.
Your counselor is incorrect, and this is a common error. If the HS scale is A=4, then wGPA is on a scale of 4 (regardless of the weighting for whatever the HS defines as rigorous courses.) The wGPA would not be on a scale of 5, for example, even if some honors/AP/IB/DE courses get a +1 bump, because it’s not possible to take all 5.0 level courses. So, a 5.0 GPA is not even possible.
UF is a good illustrative example. Per UF, the wGPA they recalculate is on a 4.0 scale.
But I think what the counselor is saying - what I’m saying - 5.0 is the most it can be - so you are looking out of 5. So how do you rate on that 5 scale? Not everyone uses the same terminology. But the # cannot be higher than a 5.
Of course, some schools, even unweighted, go above a 4 - if an A+ is 4.33, as an example.
At this point, kids will know their decision soon enough - and none of this will matter 