<p>I’m looking for anywhere in the northeast, preferably not New York, but a less crowded state. Vermont, Connecticut, Maine, Rhode Island, Massachusetts, around there that offers a degree in music performance and that i stand a decent to good chance of getting accepted with a 3.0 overall GPA and an 1830 on the SAT. (taking it next saturday, hoping to get higher.) I’m already applying to Boston University, University Of Southern Maine, and University of Rhode Island.</p>
<p>The University of Hartford’s conservatory: [The</a> Hartt School | Music Dance Theatre](<a href=“The Hartt School - University of Hartford”>http://harttweb.hartford.edu/)</p>
<p>You’d be well served to repost or crosslink this thread to CC’s music major forum. [Music</a> Major - College Confidential](<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/music-major/]Music”>Music Major - College Confidential Forums)</p>
<p>More detail on your musical background is necessary to be able to suggest some potential options.</p>
<p>The disparity between the music offerings at BU and your other mentioned options are large. The state schools you mention are typically not on lists for music performance candidates, although most state programs do excellent jobs in preparing music educators and are often the most cost effective if you stay in state.</p>
<p>The suggestion of Hartt has potential.</p>
<p>What do you know of the audition process, the effect of stats versus musical talent in admissions at programs such as Hartt, BU, and the programs you name? Are you aware of the differences between the BA & BM designations?</p>
<p>You might want to read through this <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/music-major/258796-so-you-want-music-major-one-familys-experience.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/music-major/258796-so-you-want-music-major-one-familys-experience.html</a></p>
<p>Plenty of folks in the music major forum who can offer alternatives.</p>
<p>Ithaca has a very successful conservatory (as does Hartt). And don’t forget New England Conservatory in Boston.</p>
<p>Students applying to performance programs at schools of music such as these don’t look for “universities with good music schools” as much as “top schools of music at good universities.” And the GPA / SAT won’t be as much of a factor as your audition. If your primary concern is the quality of the university rather than the music school, you may want to look at B.A. degrees rather than the B.Mus. you’ll find at most of the schools mentioned above. The distinction will be between wanting a college experience with a major in Music or wanting a conservatory experience at a School of Music that’s affiliated with a traditional university.</p>
<p>The list cited contains both public and private. Without additional detail from a musical experience perspective, it’s difficult to come up with a list.</p>
<p>The cc search function does not allow a two letter search PA,CT, NY, etc.<br>
Some past threads with a variety of northeast options:</p>
<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/music-major/520338-state-schools-pa.html?highlight=schools[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/music-major/520338-state-schools-pa.html?highlight=schools</a>
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/music-major/215716-need-some-info-ny-ct-nj-schools.html?highlight=schools[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/music-major/215716-need-some-info-ny-ct-nj-schools.html?highlight=schools</a></p>
<p>NY- Potentially Ithaca, Syracuse, a number of the SUNYs (Fredonia, Potsdam, Purchase)
PA- Penn State, Susquehanna, Gettysburg
NJ- Rutgers, TCNJ, Rowan
MA- I’ll throw in Boston Conservatory, but the OP said university.</p>
<p>I can think of nothing in NH, VT or ME from a performance standpoint. I would not recommend anything in CT beyond Hartt for performance.</p>
<p>These are representative and by no means inclusive. Just a few potential options based on the limited info provided.</p>
<p>I’d throw UMass Amherst into the mix:</p>
<p>The Bachelor of Music Degree
Concentrations: </p>
<p>Jazz & African-American Music Studies
Music Education
Music History
Performance (Classical)
Music Theory/Composition</p>
<p>Depending on your instrument University of Southern ME, University of NH, Plymouth State University all have good music departments.</p>
<p>Add Bowdoin to the list…</p>
<p>Why would you add Bowdoin to the list? It is a highly selective liberal arts college, not a university. Besides, how many students does Bowdoin select with a 3.0 GPA and 1830 SATs?</p>
<p>Same (as in#10) could be said for Ithaca, Syracuse and SUNY Fredonia, all of which require admission to the university as well as the music school (SUNY Fredonia requires academic admission- which has become harder in recent years- before granting an audition).</p>
<p>Whoa, I don’t see how we can over the OP any opinions whatsoever until we have some more information. There are literally hundreds of schools in that geographic area which have music departments and which claim to offer degrees in performance. Not to mention the fact that NY is a big place so ruling it out on the basis of being “too crowded” is not wise- I am assuming that the OP means NYC,though. CT is very crowded,especially in the Eastern regions and Boston is a major city- densely populated- with problems similar to NYC.
OP- Please tell us what your instrument is, or voice type, how long you have been studying and what you hope to do with a performance degree. Schools and their programs can vary widely even though they may offer the same degree.It seems clear that you are not looking at any of the major conservatories, but you should be aware that many other schools also require auditions and the application dates are fast approaching. Are you a senior in HS? If so, please know that you are quite a bit behind at this point in the year if you are just beginning to look at colleges. Do you truly mean “university” in that you prefer a large school with a lot of liberal arts courses? Would you consider a smaller, liberal arts college with a music program? I assume you have a private teacher with whom you study- what advice does she/he give you? Have you had your talent evaluated by professional musicians or music teachers? I ask that because there is a vast difference between being a competative candidate at a place like Boston Conservatory or the University of Southern Maine. Please give us something to go on so that we can offer advice which could better help you. You should also search through past threads in this Forum as there is a lot of good information which has already been posted.</p>
<p>She is looking specifically for Universities. I don’t think her question or the answers are out of line.</p>
<p>They are not out of line, musica, nor did I say they were, but without the needed information we could post the name of each and every school in all of those states and end up with nothing more than words. There is no use in talking about a school with, say, a top string program, when the person plays the french horn. Also, a lot of people use the word “university” and “college” interchangeably, so it would again be a great help if we knew what size school the poster would truly prefer. There are mentions of everything here, from mid-sized unis to conservatories to LACs and there are programs ranging from excellent with large numbers of faculty members to schools with one or two profs. We could be much more helpful with something more to go on.</p>
<p>Some of the names suggested may be out of sync with the op’s academic stats, some may be reaches from a talent perspective, some may be of less strength than what the op may want or need. </p>
<p>Some may not fit based on instrument or discipline.</p>
<p>Again without knowing more specifics including greater music experiential background, the factors of cost and aid, a better definition of “less populated” (especially within the context of BU being a school of choice), the suggestions offered are no more than a shotgun type of approach.</p>
<p>Personally, I’m not a fan of using an open choke when pulling the trigger. If you only have one round in the magazine, sometimes it’s worth taking a shot before reloading.</p>
<p>The effectiveness is limited, but it can sometimes get the job done.</p>
<p>At least no one threw in Curtis, Colburn, or Juilliard. Or Yale. :D</p>
<p>I agree with Mezzo’sMama on this one. Jcossa1742 did not report anything about musical background, instrument played, level of training. While Boston University has competitive auditions that require advanced repertoire, the other schools on jcossa1742’s list have much less demanding audition requirements (I looked on the web sites). I think that without more information from jcossa1742, these well-meaning responses are kind of random. (Violadad, I don’t know much about guns and didn’t really understand your gun analogy, but the one that came to mind regarding the responses on this thread is what is called “the shotgun approach.”) </p>
<p>And Jcossa1742, if you are reading these posts, it is clear that there are people with a lot of knowledge who would like to help, so if you want useful information/suggestions, please write again with more about your music background, level of training and goals.</p>
<p>rigaudon, a choke is a device on a shotgun barrel that expands or reduces the width of the pattern of the “shot” (the individual pellets within a shotgun shell). An open choke produces the widest pattern of distribution, a closed or narrow choke will restrict the pattern to a tighter range. A rifle in comparison will discharge a single projectile and if properly aimed will hopefully hit the target. A shotgun (unless one is using a single shell with one slug) will allow one to distribute the discharge over the targeted area, producing many small holes, which may or may not prove effective enough to produce the required end result.</p>
<p>I am neither a gun enthusiast or a hunter. I felt the analogy appropriate given the discussion.</p>
<p>The op mentions “I’m already applying…” to specific schools, asks for options, and mentions little background musically or otherwise to aid in offering additional potential choices. Whether the op will return, or repost to expand the criteria is unknown. My “gut” tells me the op may not come back, or at a point too late to react. I may be wrong, and I hope I am. </p>
<p>The points you and Mezzo’sMama address reinforce the questions I originally broached in post #3. This thread originated in another cc forum and was moved here. There were suggestions made prior to the move. The link in the originating forum may have initiated some replies (from the originating forum) after the move. Not all of them may fit, nor do all that I proposed in my post #6. </p>
<p>With no background from the op as to thought, direction, or informed research that has gone into the list presented originally, the open choke approach may present some options worth examining. They may well not.</p>
<p>I hope this explains both my thinking and analogy.</p>
<p>As far as BU is concerned, academics are a definite factor in acceptance, scores and grades and level of difficulty of courses are important. The requirements may be more flexible for talented musicians, but it will definitely play a part in 1) acceptance and 2) merit scholarship money. </p>
<p>BU has a great program and if you are looking for a more complete LA course experience, they have double the LA course requirements than most performance conservatory programs. It is a great choice overall, but definitely the most demanding academically of all the schools mentioned. It is also an urban campus, no green space to speak of, and a large student population, but, IMO, being in Boston to study beats any of the negatives that you might find about the campus.</p>
<p>Thanks for the information violadad. Interesting. I like to impress my high school senior by having arcane knowledge on many subjects, and I am going to try to find a way to use this “open choke” term sometime soon. Also, I did not know this thread was moved from anywhere else, I am wondering if that is designated by the “ticket” symbol, and how it is possible to know where such threads were originally posted.</p>
<p>rigaudon, I’m not sure if there is a way to differentiate a thread that has been moved (other than to come across the original link in the original forum).</p>
<p>I happen to know specifically about this thread because my first reply was generated in the original forum (possibly the search and selection forum).</p>
<p>Take a look at the thread here: <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/music-major/789635-music-college.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/music-major/789635-music-college.html</a> Post 5 by JEM (the moving moderator) posted the fact that the thread was indeed moved (in this case from the Parents Forum if I recall). Both binx and I suggested a move here. I went a bit further by hitting the report problem post button and suggested the thread be moved based on content.</p>
<p>While this may raise some eyebrows, please be aware it is the moderator/administration recommended means of getting a problem post (foul language, spam, phishing attempts) or a misdirected post moved to the appropriate forum quickly. Anyone wishing to verify this is welcome to ask the same question directly of administration or a moderator. </p>
<p>I’ve requested numerous times to have music specific questions within the other CC forums be moved, as I’ve done for some other arts discipline posts. The mods do a great job in moving the ubiquitous “chances” threads and other topics to the appropriate forums, yet have seemed to leave many arts specific postings alone and do not move them. Some are best left where they are originally posted, but those dealing specifically with arts discipline related questions are often best addressed within the appropriate subforums where the full benefit of discipline expertise can be employed.</p>
<p>Some of the responses generated to these types of questions in the other forums can be downright frightening or blatantly wrong. ;)</p>
<p>It’s possible the mods may well truncate or delete some of the info I post now as potentially a TOS violation. If that should happen, I’m confident they will provide an administratively appropriate position and clarification.</p>
<p>And while we’re on the subject, there are a few that have assumed I am a mod or may operate within some form of official capacity. I do not possess “higher” powers and have indicated that in prior threads.</p>
<p>For those unaware, the mods have an identifier in their user name, in lieu of the the member designation; those with administrative powers have the designation of administrator. Take a peak at JEM’s in the post I referenced.</p>