thanks, that is good to know! i am hoping to visit to get a better feel for campus in person
I was deferred in the Early Action round and wonder if my application will receive any special consideration over the ones submitted for regular decision or if it will be reevaluated alongside them. Also, I’d like to know if the University of Michigan has admitted deferred candidates before the early April deadline and, if not, what the historical release dates for Regular Decision have been.
I appreciate your help, and I’m currently trying to cope with the deferral. It’s tough out here
The official word from Michigan is that postponed EA applicants don’t get any special consideration in the RD pool. You’re now considered RD.
Post-pandemic, one large RD drop/release on or around 4/1. Pre-pandemic, Michigan would release RD decisions in “waves,” one, sometimes more, in each of February, March and April.
Of course, Michigan has so many schools that infrequently one of the schools, such as Nursing, Architecture, Kinesiology, SMTD, etc. would accept applicants outside the major “waves.”
A few years ago, Michigan accepted a bunch of instate RD applicants in late February.
In any case, assume for planning purposes last Friday in March. The decision can be either an acceptance, WL or rejection.
I was deferred from Michigan EA. I applied test-optional but had a 1430 on my SAT. My verbal score is 740. Should I include my verbal score in my LOCI? I’m applying to the college of LSA, not a math-based major. Thank you!
Are you in state or out
I am out of state
What is your unweighted GPA and number of AP or IB courses? Grades and rigor are particularly important for Michigan.
I had mentioned this a few weeks ago in this thread, but during an admissions tour at Michigan they said they wanted students to have taken at least 40% of available AP classes at their high school. They really emphasized that point.
My course rigor is strong, especially in Science, English, Computer Sciences and History/Gov. I also have some Dual Enrollment courses. I take Honors Calculus, not AP. I have one B+ on my transcript in 10th grade, the rest are As. My weighted GPA is about 4.25 on a 4.0 scale. I was not surprised by the deferral as I know there are stronger students, and I don’t think my TO status helped. My guidance counselor said to apply TO, but I do feel my verbal score is pretty good.
Thanks for this link! One question from the page. It says:
" * Double Majors
- LSA students can more easily double-major with other LSA departments
- Engineering students can more easily dual with other Engineering programs"
In the second bullet are they using “dual” as another way of saying double-major? Or is dual something different?
My understanding is dual is two distinct majors and double is one degree with two concentrations…
But many minors and some degrees lend to that more easily also. My son double minored with his Industrial engineering degree instead of graduating early as an example. His two majors actually sealed the deal on his current job. They pointed to them in his multiple interviews
I would - and would have.
Why?
Per CDS - it’s year old data but the 25th percentile was 1350. Even your 690 math is above the 25th percent. On their website though, they also say this: for last year (2023) so it didn’t go up. I would have included last round * * 1350-1530 Average SAT range
More importantly, and it’s class of 22, not 23 - but 78% submitted. Take out athletes, it will be higher. They clearly favor test submitters. We could argue the value - but numbers like this don’t lie. Sure, we don’t know what % of great test submitters they declined - maybe the same - but my hypothesis is, they want the test.
For that reason alone, I would.
It’s a personal decision of course but clearly enrollees are submitting.
But I only see it helping you. Others may disagree.
OH. Wow okay yes thanks - that’s definitely different.
As stated above Michigan wants what “your” school offers. They want honors - Ap /IB - then dual classes. I talked to admissions last week on this. They value the AP classes over college dual “If” your school offers them. Also the weighted score means nothing to Michigan as they will recalcute it. They only use core classes and A=4,B=3 and so on. As a reference many students weighted scores can be closer to 5. Also you are only compared to your own school. What is the history of kids getting accepted with your scores.
BTW - The 740 won’t be why your not accepted. It’s only one data point. With the amount of applications getting accepted or deferred at this stage is a win. It’s not a reflection on you.
It’s very difficult to make the CDS deduction for an OOS student. The CDS aggregates in-state and OOS data, and all indications — including the anecdotal responses in this post — is that OOS expectations are much higher.
What kind of school do you attend? And does your school profile include average SAT scores for your school? If not, is your school known to Michigan?
It may be but 78% of enrollees submit.
The student may or may not have a chance either way - but and I noted it’s personal, I don’t see a reason that I wouldn’t be submitting.
Take out athletes, maybe some first gen, etc - what are your odds if you don’t submit?
It’s all anecdotal or a guess.
Even my daughter’s school (low rated) has a lower in state test than the OOS kids - but you have to work with what you’re given.
But again, as noted, it is a personal call and the student has to do what they feel best.
We don’t know either way - the student’s chance - until the AOs react - and for most deferred, it’s going to be a no. That’s just reality.
I agree that Michigan likes test scores, but this student should consider not only the scores in comparison to overall accepted scores, but — as @Knowsstuff is stressing with grades — her scores relative to her high school.
If she is at a competitive high school where her score is around the average, submitting is less likely to help. Given that the guidance counselor recommended that she not submit originally, this may be the reason.
and my counter would be - 78% doesn’t lie. Take out athletes, first gen, URM where noted (as they can’t use the box check anymore) - it’s likely over 80%
But I’m not a GC.
As noted, just looking at the data. But that’s where I would be.
But it’s likely for most kids applying, test submit or not - won’t make a difference - as most will not get in.
But I like my odds better submitting.
But to your point, there are other factors I am not considering.
But the one I am considering, for me at least, is pretty telling.
We can agree to disagree on this one.
OK. This isn’t other school threads… Lol. We don’t point and counter point please… … I think the poster gets the point. Lol
You can still submit, you can upload scores and then email ecredentials@umich.edu with your name, birthday, Michigan ID, etc and tell them you want to be test considered. By 2/1!