UPenn Class of 2028 Official Thread

Do nursing applicants at Penn find out earlier than March 28th?

Yes. Stay tuned for an email from your interviewer soon.

Nursing students that apply RD find out on Ivy Day with everyone else. Good luck!

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His stats are strong! Is this an official decision posted in the portal? My S13 and daughter in law went to Wharton, so we have been paying attention to what’s up at Penn. Never saw they posted RD decisions earlier than the Ivy Day before.

He applied ED so he found out a month ago or so. They said he would NOT be considered for RD.

They (and probably all other ED schools) only consider deferred ED applicants in the RD pool.

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He sounds like a great kid. Has he applied to other schools he’s excited about? Obviously I’m not an AO but I highly doubt it has anything to do with race. Penn is so highly selective that even ā€œperfectā€ kids just don’t get in. There’s too many kids and not enough spots. That said, I bet someone else snatches him up!

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That would be illegal. Statistics aren’t the whole picture, though everyone is assessed for their ability to handle the rigor of Penn.

Meanwhile, many people who meet or exceed the statistical averages are denied a spot: there are too many of them for the available seats. That’s why everyone needs a range of colleges on their lists, and no one can count on admission to any school with single-digit admit rates.

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what major did he apply? maybe it’s too competivie?

Illegal? Hardly illegal, it is common practice. There is a reason so many schools went test optional. Fortunately, some schools (Notre Dame, Dartmouth) are now realizing that test optional might not be the best.

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There was a Supreme Court decision last summer, Students for Fair Admissions v. Harvard , 600 U.S. 181 (2023), that changed Supreme Court doctrine and outlawed the previously legal practice of race-based affirmative action. So starting with this cycle, it is no longer legal for colleges to directly and categorically consider race/ethnicity/national-origin for domestic applicants.

They can, however, consider individual stories which in some way relate to ethnicity and such which are individually connected to permissible considerations. So, for example, if an individual wrote an essay about their experiences growing up as an ethnic minority in their community, reflecting on how those experiences had shaped their values, interests, and/or plans for college, colleges could consider all that as long as they were considering it individually and not categorically.

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Well, Dartmouth’s data shows test-optional policies were harming the admissions chances of kids from low-performing school districts, so they’re switching back to test-required to achieve better socio-economic diversity. Of course, contrary to the point I think you are trying to make, that change may produce a positive correlation to racial diversity, but no school can make an admissions offer on the basis of race itself. SCOTUS is quite clear on that.

But this is a Penn admissions thread.

I hope your student has (or soon will have) good options, but don’t let your disappointment on the Penn decision tarnish the achievements of others who got in, including those following this thread. The spot your student did not get was not theirs to lose, so it couldn’t have been taken away by any one else. Those other students impressed Penn on their own terms, rightfully earning their acceptances.

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If you think one school is hard, imagine all the people discriminated against every single day of their lives.

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Incorrect.

There is no longer a benefit from checking a box, but…

ā€œFor high school seniors of color applying to colleges in the coming years, the essay and short answer sections will take on newfound importance. Chief Justice John Roberts suggested as much when he wrote in his majority opinion, ā€œNothing in this opinion should be construed as prohibiting universities from considering an applicant’s discussion of how race affected his or her life, be it through discrimination, inspiration or otherwise.ā€ā€

Edit: withdrawn.

I know we went in this direction due to one person’s unsubstantiated concern that race played a role in a denial from Penn. Although I and others have challenged that speculation, I think we’re starting to diverge from the intended purpose of this thread.

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I did not realize we had a few financial aid forms due in the Financial aid tab of the portal. The deadline was yesterday.

Obviously get them done ASAP, but you are very likely OK.

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What do you mean very likely? I did not receive an email, everyone probably has it in thier financial aid tab on the portal. Did you check?

I just meant I can’t actually speak for their Financial Aid office, so I can’t be absolutely certain. But my experience with Financial Aid offices, and really university bureaucracies in general, is they are unlikely to actually want to punish you by denying you aid. So as long as you can get it done fast, my feeling is you are very likely to be OK.

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