UVA Deferred In-State

Colleges & Universities University of Virginia
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<p>Yeah…so bawled my eyes out yesterday after getting the news. Do I honestly have a chance of being accepted reg. decision?
SAT I - 2180 (CR: 710 M: 680 W: 790)
SAT II - Bio: 680 Math 2: 710
GPA: Unweighted probably around 4.0, weighted 4.5
AP: AP Calc AB (4), AP US History (4), AP Comparative Government (4), AP Stats (not yet taken)
I’m also taking IB Bio HL, IB Art HL, and DE English
Solid EC’s, a couple leadership positions, recommendations were probably good, common app essay was excellent IMHO, supplements were pretty good.</p>

<p>I was probably deferred because my course load wasn’t too rigorous (but still, 4 AP’s, 2 IB’s, and one DE course isn’t that bad?). I should’ve sent in an art supplement. Anything else that could’ve went wrong? I’m just so disappointed because I’m in-state and UVA was my first choice and the four other people from my school that applied EA got accepted and their stats were a little lower than mine…</p>

<p>Anyways, feel free to post your stats here too I guess. </p>

<p>Also, does anyone know how many deferrals they actually end up accepting?</p>

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<p>Send the art supplement with a nice and brief- stress brief- note saying UVA is your top choice and you hope that the supplement will help strengthen your app. Nice and simple but to the point. Good luck!</p>

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<p>That’s excellent advice, 89wahoo!</p>

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<p>A large number of deferred students get admitted in April. Put some extra work into your classes over the next couple months and have your guidance counselor send in updated grades.</p>

<p>Your sat subject scores are good, but maybe you want to take one more (for something you are currently studying).</p>

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<p>UVa admissions recommends sending any updated scores, your MY transcript (required), but states they are unable to review other supplemental materials. </p>

<p>[Deferred</a> Student Information | Office of Undergraduate Admission](<a href=“http://admission.virginia.edu/defer]Deferred”>http://admission.virginia.edu/defer)</p>

<p>I don’t know of any statistics regarding deferred students eventually receiving admits during RD. There’s only two years of EA history to go on so even if someone had a number I’d hardly consider it a prediction, but more a rough guideline.</p>

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<p>lssnghm: I don’t mean to be unsympathetic, but why did you “bawl your eyes out”? I am sure you have applied to other good schools…do not worry so much. I have posted in other threads, your career will NOT hinge on acceptance to UVA, it simply will not. Dean J says this EVERY year, but no one listens. Please relax and you will do just fine. Va Tech, JMU, W&M…all great schools.</p>

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<p>My daughter was deferred to UVA. I am actually happy that she was deferred. Let me explain … </p>

<p>My income knocks my daughter out of any financial aid from UVA. Unfortunately due to bad planning, bad luck, a large family and an extremely disabled child I am knee deep in debt and have bad credit. </p>

<p>It seems that the cost of attendance is $22,000 a year at UVA in state. My daughter can get $5,500 in loans as a dependent student, plus another $4,000 in loans due to the fact I will not qualify to co-sign Plus loans.</p>

<p>That leaves a $12,500 gap. I don’t have that money saved up nor do I have $12,500 in disposable income to pay the gap. </p>

<p>Fast forward - UA gave my daughter a free ride on tuition plus a $2,500 a year engineering scholarship. The gap between scholarship, $9,500 in loans and the cost of attendance is almost zero. My big cost with the University of Alabama will be getting her there and home since we live in VA. My daughter is already in UA Honors College.</p>

<p>I know the argument but UVA is a better ranked school. Maybe so but when I visited UVA, William and Mary, University of Maryland none of the schools sold me on why they were better academic schools over other schools. I cannot tell you why one school is better than another other than Newsweek says so … </p>

<p>You always want the best for your kids but is Newsweek ranking all it is really cracked up to be? I went to a small school in the middle of no where Appalachia and I make a good salary, 6 figures plus. How much debt is right for your kids - you will not get any help from the top ranked schools unless you are low income or your student is beyond perfect.</p>

<p>If you have money to spend on UVA or low income by all means go there. But for those of us caught in the middle are Universities like UVA really right? Do you really want to co-sign a Plus loan for your child and then have life smile unkindly on them in ways you could never foresee (divorce, unemployment, family expenses). Then you are on the hook for the loans?</p>

<p>Think long and hard about UVA and what you are getting… </p>

<p>Btw - We had not visited UA due to the distance and the cost - we will go in February!</p>

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<p>Congratulations to your DD on the great scholarship. When doing the math and comparing UA keep in mind your total COA is your cost before loans. So your cost at UA is $9,500 + travel and personal expenses. Best of luck to your DD, she sounds like she’ll be successful no matter where she goes.</p>

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<p>It is true that the cost to UA is $9500 to $10,000 per year out of pocket. UVA is $22,000. Is my daughter getting $48,000 worth of “better/Quality” education at UVA over 4 years? Is UVA’s rep worth 48K?</p>

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<p>I was making absolutely no judgement call whatsoever on one school over the other! My point was in comparing any school to another it’s important not to look only at the out of pocket today, but the total overall COA, which is the price of the school prior to loans. I fully agree that each student and family must look at the options once they have acceptances and merit/finaid offers in hand and decide what is best for them. We did this with our kids. ‘Perceived value’ is part of that equation and I certainly do not bow at the alter of USN&WR. I sincerely wish your daughter the very best in her college search and beyond. As I said yesterday, she sounds like she’ll be successful no matter where she goes.</p>

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<p>I think Euriso that we may be hijacking the OP’s thread for a different discussion.</p>

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<p>I may be hijacking the thread unintentionally - my point if you are deferred or rejected by UVA its not the end of the world. There are good if not better alternatives if you can see them they may fit your needs.</p>

<p>The old saying - is the cup half full or half empty! :).</p>

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<p>I doubt that very, very much. (See below.)</p>

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<p>b/i,</p>

<p>Does what the CDS calls “Waitlist” reporting equate to U-Va’s EA applicants?
If so, then less than 4½ % of those on the “waitlist” get admitted.
Seems like a pretty darn small percentage.</p>

<p>(Note: I’m not saying that U-Va is unique in that regard. From what I’ve seen, that number seems pretty standard.)</p>

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<p>Deferred is not the same as waitlisted.</p>

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<p>To the best of my knowledge the CDS accounts for deferred applicants that are accepted in the RD round simply in the overall accepted pool, they are not differentiated in any way. I have never seen any data on the percentage that are accepted during RD, although only having two years history I wouldn’t use it as a guideline anyway. Schools that accept less then 10% of their deferred applicants from EA/ED during RD are generally very open about it and strongly encourage those students to actively pursue other options as the number is quite small.</p>

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<p>I hope everyone relies upon the official admissions blog, etc. for accurate info. Here’s the official explanation of a deferral. </p>

<p>[Deferred</a> Student Information | Office of Undergraduate Admission](<a href=“http://admission.virginia.edu/defer]Deferred”>http://admission.virginia.edu/defer)</p>

<p>Excerpt:</p>

<p>“If you were deferred from Early Action to Regular Decision it means that we feel your application deserves another review. You possess many of the strengths we expect our admitted students to present in their applications but we cannot offer you admission at this stage. In many cases we want to see how deferred students are doing in the classroom during their senior year.”</p>

<p>“Early Action Defers 2014:
Overall defers: 3,771
Total VA defers: 920
Total OOS defers: 2,851
Some applicants will withdraw, so these numbers will go down.”</p>

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<p>Let’s assume the RD brings in as many apps as EA did. Let’s also assume that the strength of the RD pool is the same as EA (questionable assumption as described below). </p>

<p>4,027 EA IS apps; 2,533 offers, 920 defers, 574 rejects. Total freshman enrollment target is 3,650. Two-thirds of that is 2,445 IS seats. </p>

<p>IS yield is typically 61%. So that yields 1,545 IS enrollees. Which would imply that RD should only produce 1,475 IS offers to yield 900 IS enrollees. So that would imply that the offer rates in RD will be lower than in the EA phase.</p>

<p>That would mean very bleak prospects for EA defers if, and it is a huge if, the two pools are of the same quality. In past years, Dean J has pointed out that the EA pool has been stronger overall than the RD pool. Which makes sense.</p>

<p>So bottom line, an EA defer is going to be in the middle part of the RD application pool. So you have a reasonable shot. But since UVA’s overall IS acceptance rate is usually in the low 40s, being in the middle may not be good enough.</p>

<p>My SWAG would be less than 50/50 chance. Maybe like 25/75? Good luck.</p>

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<p>I think you have a good chance of being accepted RD. Dean J says on her blog that people who are deffered are usually deferred because they want to see that mid year report. If your mid year report is great then you probably have a good chance and if not then it probably isn’t a good chance. I think if would’ve been better if you took more AP or IB classes but you other stuff should outweigh that. </p>

<p>Please chance me
<a href=“UVA Early Action Class of 2018 Chances - #2 by sloth83 - Chance Me / Match Me! - College Confidential Forums”>UVA Early Action Class of 2018 Chances - #2 by sloth83 - Chance Me / Match Me! - College Confidential Forums;

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<p>Just an update - my daughter was accepted at UVA as a regular decision. She still chose UA over UVA due to the cost. </p>