What is the range of a first tier yeild rate?
Since you brought it up, can I kind of rant on Wisconsin now? Whatâs the point of EA if theyâre just going to defer?
S24 is kind of banking on WisconsinâOOS, 3.88 UW, 35 ACT, 9 APs with 2 5s and 2 4s so far. Wouldâve been great to have taken some pressure off and had that admission in January.
Instead they deferred him, which feels like a bait and switch.
He will go to college. Has options. And a few he will talk himself into, but the last few months have been rough.
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60% and up. Take a look at a statistic here: Yield Rates for the Class of 2027 | IvyWise
We hear youâŠwaitlisted UVA ED, rejected wash u ED2 and deferred Wisconsin and Michigan with a rejections from Illinois. This is a top 5% of graduating class applicant with a perfect math score for engineering. 
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Itâs optional and it happens before the student applies. Portfolio reviews can be very helpful for kidsâthey get a sense of if they should consider adding any pieces to the portfolio to better showcase their range for a particular school, and they can sometimes see if theyâd be a good fit for the vibe of the art school. Each school is its own thingâall of them awesome in their own way. I recommend when it is time to think about the portfolio (and you have time! lots of it!) that your student (and you if you want) watches âaccepted portfolios to Sam Foxâ or whatever school on YouTube. And make sure they are recent videos. This is not scientific, but it does give you at least a small peek into what the level of work expected might be. Another thing to know is that art schools generally want to see a studentâs most recent work. So, plan on making great work junior year and summer / fall of senior year. Final tip is to be absolutely sure to read the portfolio requirements of each school WELL IN ADVANCE. I would do it in August as soon as the Common App for that year is up because thatâs when most of the admissions websites are updated, too. Look in both places. Portfolio requirements are not the same from school to school. At all! You do not want to find this out the week before the app is due like one of my DSâs friends did. And sometimes those requirements can be a piece of information for your kid about the vibe of the school. GOOD LUCK! Art school kids are wonderful. Iâm going to miss mine so much when he goes to school this fall.
hopefully haha
I agree with #2, but there are other contributing factors in the current process that require more applications. Test optional is one that in theory would require a greater number of apps to be sent out for a student to get the same yield of acceptances at highly competitive schools. The schools donât really care how the process impacts students.
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Itâs a good question. S24 (strong candidate with great scores/GPA/APs) was waitlisted but three other kids from his HS were already admitted ED. We wondered if that might affect his standing - maybe they only take X number of kids per school or something? He had kind of readied himself for this outcome because of that. Oh well. Five more decisions coming next week, so fingers are crossed.
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My aunt, who used to be in admissions at several top schools within her career, said yield protection also simply means they ask âwill they comeâ? So for example, ED guarantees that. They also may look to see if people from their school typically come, are they really far away in a place where those people usually donât come (ex: from the Deep South), are they legacy, did their siblings go to school far away and therefore itâs likely the family is willing to ship their kids off (some schools ask you where your siblings go to college)⊠So when they get a pile of highly accomplished students, they filter them in other ways like I mentioned above. And those results seem odd to us when we are highly accomplished but the schools know that we just may not attend under certain circumstances.
Itâs not the ONLY thing they look at but it does happen. To say yield protection doesnât happen at all is false, otherwise they wouldnât offer ED. What would be the point of it?
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Thanks for posting.
One could argue that they have ED to help with yield prediction, as having a solid number of definite enrollees from ED would allow them to perhaps be less concerned about yield protection in RD because they have a higher overall confidence level as to the number of enrollees they will get. I am not saying that is the actual purpose of ED, only that a school can have ED for a reason other than yield protection.
Although as pointed out above, the line between yield protection and yield prediction can get blurry.
I totally agree with thinking about WashUâs admissionâs decisions as âwill they come.â Admissions officers are supposed to enroll students, not just admit them. With increase of applications due to test optional and increasing selectivity, itâs even harder to wade through the thousands of apps to figure out which top students might enroll. Itâs not just âthis student is too amazing and has better options,â itâs more nuanced. Could be WashU never yields kids from that area or school or the school specific questions werenât good enough (why us) or we have too many kids in that major.
As a parent and student itâs hard to figure out where to apply. My daughter applied to way too many schools because she was worried she wouldnât get in to any of her reach schools (and she was deferred ED1 from her top school, not WashU.) she applied to WashU in part because I though sheâd get in because last year the two students WashU admitted from her high school ended up attending, and I was correct. It would be much easier if there was a match system like residency.
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Sorry, basic profile:
35 ACT (one test)
4.16/4.33 unweighted (no weighting or ranking but this is very good, although not first in his class)
Not many APs offered but advanced classes in all core areas, consistent A+ grades in Bio, Chem, CS, and Latin
Three-sport varsity, team MVP and co-captain of one, assistant captain of another, worked up to regular sub and sometime starter of third
Peer Leader, Writing Center staff, designated tutor for Bio, Chem, and Latin, Admissions Ambassador
A bit of debate with a couple tournament wins but ended up focusing on winter sport more
2nd Degree Adult Black Belt (Shaolin Kung Fu)
Probably really good recommendations (Bio/Chem teacher who also coached him, and Latin teacher) and counselor report
Listed Bio, Classics, and Philosophy as interests
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i remember your son and i having fairly similar school lists, and for some reason seeing that we have latin in common made me go âoh. thatâs whyâ haha
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Itâs a great question. There were some colleges that my D did not apply to because no one had gotten in from her high school to that college in the past 5 years of applying, so that was part of the calculationâŠ
We did not look at that, and realize now we should haveâŠ
oh well! Their loss!
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Itâs so hard. Iâm here because my younger brother is out of town competing and he wonât be opening any emails until he gets home but itâs driving me crazy, so Iâm watching all of this like itâs the horse races! Lol
Anyway, he is CS and worried about how competitive CS is these days and so he applied to in state public, OOS state publics and many privates. It was crazy how many he applied to, strictly out of worry. But money also matters and so he had to be sure he would get something reasonable!
In the end, he actually is getting everything EXCEPT in state public. Can you believe it? But I think heâs going to end up with one of our siblings and that makes us all happy. It all works out in the end.
Did everybody get the travel grant offer to visit WashU this April?
Pretty cool. WashU, your stock is rising.
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No. That would have been nice.
We already thought a free t-shirt was a nice touch.
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It might be because we qualify for financial aid, live 2,000 miles away, and/or live in a rural-designated area.
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