Wharton vs Yale vs Dartmouth

Help me decide please! I am freaking out as I have to decide between these 3 schools.

They are all about the same price but Dartmouth is probably last on my list because its so isolated and I don’t like super rural locations.

I’m really conflicted between Wharton and Yale, however, because I don’t want to do finance, BUT rather consulting or product mgmt (which Wharton is still good for. However, Yale isn’t much behind since it provides a strong liberal arts base and more interdisciplinary education. I would probably do EPE (ethics, politics, and economics) at Yale and maybe double major in CS to open my job opportunities. I do feel like Wharton may help me a get a job more because of its career-oriented nature though.

I’m also kind of concerned with nightlife/fun at Yale bc it’s in New Haven, and Philly is much bigger. Also, Wharton seems to have a hyper-preprofessional focus that can be toxic, but honestly, I don’t know if it’s true.

Any inputs would be appreciated :slight_smile:

Congrats!! I’d first take Dartmouth out of the equation since you prefer Wharton and Yale. After that, go where you feel you will be happiest – nobody but you can answer that. I would take time to look at the Wharton core curriculum which would be different from a pure liberal arts education at Yale – one is not better than the other but they are different paths.

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From what you have written, Yale sounds like a good choice. Recruiters will come to campus senior year and you will probably also get internships, at least after junior or even sophomore year. You can get an MBA if you so choose.

Then again, if pre-professional is what you want, Wharton is top notch and yes Philly is a great city. I agree: look at curricula, courses, faculty.

Side note: Hanover is a pretty lively town. Woodstock is nearby over the border.

Have you visited all three schools? I often thing “vibe” can be a deciding factor as long as costs are equal.

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Go to Yale.

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You would have to be superhuman to do EPE and double major in CS at Yale. Worth investigating to see how many students have pulled that off…if that’s actually a consideration…

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I totally understand that they’re different paths but I guess I was just looking for advice to see what others may think the better college experience would be (and learn abt the cons/pros I may not know abt). I’ve heard many Yale grads get the same jobs as Wharton grads and Harvard grads, etc so there are marginal differences in outcomes.

I will say though, I really did prefer Yale’s campus so much more compared to Penn but I loved being in Philly. It’s hard since both have pretty big pros and cons for me.

Also, would love to know if anyone has any info on the Yale alumni network vs Wharton/Penn network? Some of the wharton alumni i tried to contact have been really unaproachable but that may be a sample issue.

Also thank you so much!!

Yes I totally agree. I might be in over my head. Yale does have an econ + cs interdisciplinary major that might fit me more! Thanks

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Can I pick your brain and ask why?

I visited all yes. And while I did really prefer the vibe of Yale and the architecture more, I will say Penn has an electric energy being in such an urban area that I rlly liked. I guess I’m trying to find the intangibles I didn’t get to see on my campus tours/ admitted students days.

Most working adults are going to have trouble carving out time to talk to a random high school student. You are not going to get good data by reaching out to alums, especially if you are undecided about Wharton.

Wharton is a business school. If you don’t want to study business, don’t go there. It’s actually quite simple. Yes, cross registering with the law school, taking an ethics course from arts and sciences- a couple of non business experiences. But people don’t go to Wharton to study anything approaching EPE.

So forget Philadelphia, alumni network, all those distractions. You either do or don’t want to spend 8 semesters learning what Wharton teaches or you don’t. And if you don’t…you will LOVE Yale.

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Thank you this is very helpful!

What @Blossom said :slight_smile: plus, Dartmouth is out, and you are undecided about business. Fair or not, Yale’s aura will follow you for the rest of your life.

But also – so you could react to my post and see how you felt, which might help clarify your thoughts.

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I would choose Yale over Wharton. It is comprised by a much more eclectic group of kids. The Wharton name is great, but you have to compete with 600 other kids all 4 years in a very cutthroat environment. Yale programs will allow you to meet interesting people, faculty members, and still offer you direct access to on-campus recruiting with all major firms. Enjoy New Haven!

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I agree first you have to decide if you even want to go to an undergrad business school.

I note many people who want to go into business choose not to. They prefer a different sort of education and experience for college, understand they can still get jobs in business out of college, and understand they could later go to a graduate business school if that made sense for their career. And to me it doesn’t matter if Wharton is arguably the best undergrad business school in the US–if that is not what you want for undergrad, you shouldn’t choose it.

But other people DO want to go to an undergrad business school. They like the idea of the focused curriculum, being around a lot of other kids with similar interests and ambitions, and so on. So if you do want that, then of course you should choose Wharton, because Yale does not have an undergraduate business school.

Then I think this observation is secondary to that central question, but I note a lot of social life at Yale in some way centers around the residential college system. Some people find that system very appealing, but I do think it means Yale students may spend more time “on campus” than they might at some other colleges. That said, there is in fact lots to do in New Haven, the ocean is nearby, NYC is not far away, and so on. But again, I think it is true that Yale students often just choose to do less of that than they could if they wanted.

If that sort of typical social life was a major issue for you, but you didn’t want to go to an undergraduate business school, then the better choice might actually be Penn CAS. The problem is as I understand it, Penn will require you to do two semesters in Wharton before you can look to transfer to CAS. I would not do that lightly–your first year in college is pretty important in terms of making the transition, meeting people, and generally setting the foundation for your next years. So I don’t tend to favor plans where you do not start as a first year where you want to be. If it happens accidentally, like you think you want one thing then change your mind, sure, go ahead. But if you already know you do not want to be in an undergrad business school, I would not start in Wharton.

However, if you are actually think you DO want to start in an undergrad business school, then know you might have the option to transfer to CAS if you changed your mind. Here are the basic policies:

As they note there, transferring IN to Wharton is usually quite difficult, but transferring from Wharton to CAS is not necessarily difficult–you need the two semesters, you need to be in good academic standing, and you need a reason based in your academic interests and goals. But usually it will be easy to articulate that reason if you decide an undergraduate business program is not for you and you would rather do something that CAS offers.

Again, I would stress this should not be your Plan A in my view. But if you do want to give Wharton a try, but want to know if you would have options if it turned out you would prefer something else–yes, such options would probably be available.

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OP: It is clear from your thread-opening post that you do not want to attend Dartmouth or Wharton, but do prefer Yale and Philadelphia.

Wharton is intense and competitive.

Students at Yale know how to have fun.

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My S22 was deferred at Yale. Between that and final rejection, he had interviews and meetings with alumni who shared their experiences and prospects.
You go to Yale for the connections, networking and a well-rounded education. Unless, you are focussed on business as a degree and want to pursue wall street/ investment banking - niche areas, go to Yale.

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No to Dartmouth for you.

If your primary interest in Wharton is for job placement post grad, Yale is the place for you - it’ll be just as good. . You sound like you like the idea of being in a city, so Penn gets the edge here. Having said that, having a city as a backdrop can siphon energy away from the school and can also highlight wealth differences between students. Personally, I like schools that have a lot going on on campus – you have the resr of your life for having an urban playground! But that is personal. I’d pick Yale.

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Wharton undergrads I know (recent grads, one there now) have NOT found the environment to be cutthroat and are very happy. Guess YMMV.

But if the OP prefers Yale they absolutely should go with that.

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