What is your attitude toward underage drinking?

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<p>I’m sure kids get apartments both to party and to get away from the parties, and the honors dorm is probably more sedate. I know all schools are experiencing this problem, but there is something about PSU that especially bothers me. I think it’s the fact that the school really sort of is the town and vice versa–a town in the middle of nowhere that is really just Penn State. It’s really sort of a symbiotic relationship. For that reason I think the townspeople should take more of an interest in the welfare of the kids–not just an interest in making a buck off of them.</p>

<p>I think writing is a start; certainly it can’t hurt.</p>

<p>My kid’s a junior. I’m not a football fan, rah, rah type of a person and either is he but one gets sort of caught up in it. Personally I’m counting the days until he gets out of there safe and sound. :mad:</p>

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<p>I am surprised you want to legalize marijuana considering how bad it is fr your brain, and how its considerably worse than alcohol, by killing motivation, drowning ur brain in thc, its a gateway drug, yet you want people to have legal access to it? Thats crazy.</p>

<p>There is nothing really wrong with alcohol, like there is with coke, heroin, pot etc…Its just a matter of how people use alcohol. I think it is very strange that you are so against people who like to have a drink. Some of the world’s smartest and most important people have been and are drinkers. The people who operate on you in hospitals often drink to relax from constantly working, just as an example,you unfairly treat alot of drinkers from what i can tell by reading your posts</p>

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<p>Yep, and it fried W’s grey matter. At least he admitted to using maryjane, cocaine, and booze. Just look into those eyes, listen to the speech patterns, randomness unless scripted.</p>

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<p>golani you are a little ways from legal drinking age right?</p>

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<p>yes i am a little ways from legal drinking age</p>

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<p>"I am surprised you want to legalize marijuana considering how bad it is fr your brain, and how its considerably worse than alcohol, by killing motivation, drowning ur brain in thc, its a gateway drug, yet you want people to have legal access to it? Thats crazy.</p>

<p>There is nothing really wrong with alcohol, like there is with coke, heroin, pot etc."</p>

<p>I beg to differ.</p>

<p>I speak from experience.</p>

<p>Just for the record, I have not touched any illegal drugs in 25 years. And in those last 25 years, I have only an occasional glass of wine.</p>

<p>I do not intend to ever touch pot again, and I am thankful that my son is straightedge. I agree that it kills motivation. It basically makes people apathetic and stupid. Not a good idea during college.</p>

<p>But, I will defend it when pitted against alcohol. Alcohol is worse on many counts.</p>

<p>Alcohol causes violence. People get drunk and then they get p*****d off and they get violent and they shoot each other. How many ‘crimes of passion’ were because of alcohol?</p>

<p>Alcohol causes deaths on the highway. Sure, pot impairs driving. But not nearly as much as Alcohol.</p>

<p>Alcohol causes teenage girls to become vulnerable to rape. Pot doesn’t.</p>

<p>Alcohol brings out the worst in people. It brings out their rage and their violent nature. Pot just makes them want to put on a Pink Floyd record and veg. </p>

<p>I think the world would be a much, much better place if both alcohol and pot were nonexistent, but if there had to be one legal vice, I would choose pot over alcohol any day.</p>

<p>Sure, pot makes the students stupid. But so do hangovers. Not to mention getting killed from driving DUI.</p>

<p>Having experienced both, I believe that alcohol is by far the more dangerous drug.</p>

<p>It irritates me when people are self-righteous and criticize those who do drugs, while they sip their beer or their drink. It’s hypocritical. And, if they’ve never experienced being high, they really don’t know what they’re talking about.</p>

<p>Being high is really stupid. You want to be intelligent and make the best of your college years, don’t get high. It impairs your ability to think clearly.</p>

<p>But drinking is far worse. It makes people not only stupid but causes deaths. Not to mention it’s addictive and causes death in the drinker eventually.</p>

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<p>Pot is really yummy! :rolleyes:
I firmly believe marijuana is a “gateway” drug, based on the experiences of many people I know, which were not pretty.</p>

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<p>There is plenty wrong with alcohol. It is absurd to me that alcohol is legal and marijuana isn’t. And no, it isn’t a gateway drug for everyone, any more than everyone who has a beer becomes a drunk.</p>

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<p>“any more than everyone who has a beer becomes a drunk…”</p>

<p>Exactly! Why is it that people don’t call beer a ‘gateway’ to alcoholism???</p>

<p>For anyone who’s ever taken a simple logic course, they will know that:</p>

<p>(for the LEGAL drug called alcohol)</p>

<p>just because most alcoholics started with beer or wine</p>

<p>does not mean that</p>

<p>people who have an occasional beer or glass of wine will become alcoholics</p>

<p>Now substitute illegal drugs:</p>

<p>just because most druggies started with pot</p>

<p>does not mean that</p>

<p>people who have an occasional toke will become heroin or crack addicts</p>

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<p>The only purpose of using pot is to get high, which is not the only purpose of enjoying a drink.</p>

<p>The difference is clear.</p>

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<p><a href=“http://www.marijuanaaddiction.info/marijuana-gateway-drug.htm[/url]”>http://www.marijuanaaddiction.info/marijuana-gateway-drug.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>References Journal of the American Medical Association Study</p>

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<p>Hereshoping, I really need some help understanding. What exactly is the purpose of “enjoying” a drink? Where - and what - is the enjoyment factor? </p>

<p>Why not simply have a nice, cold glass of water instead? Or for that matter, a glass of juice, or iced tea, or (???). </p>

<p>I’m not trying to be argumentative, I just really, seriously do not get it. Alcohol is expensive, and has no health benefits. Therefore the only possible purpose I can see is to transport one’s brain, emotional stability, reasoning capacity etc. elsewhere. </p>

<p>Why do you drink? Please enlighten me…through this whole thread I haven’t yet seen a post that helps me understand any legitimate reason to have even one drink of alcohol.</p>

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<p>The taste. Go on-line and you can find volumes written about wines, beers, whiskeys, etc., as I’m sure you know. Some people actually do appreciate the taste of different kinds of spirits. For most people a glass of wine or beer taken with a meal has no noticeable physical effect. Books have been written about the pairings of various wines with different foods, for example. This has been going on for centuries. By contrast, the one and only purpose of pot is to get high.</p>

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<p>Well, actually studies have shown that a few drinks can actually improve your health, such as red wine. Recently, a new study has found that something in red wine actually reduces the effects that a high fat diet can have on your body (well at least for a mouse)</p>

<p>I do forsee McDonalds getting a liquor license.</p>

<p>And people who drink socially have higher average incomes than those who don’t.</p>

<p>Amazing stuff…eh?</p>

<p>Oh and about the pot…talk to people on chemo.</p>

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<p>Hereshoping, that makes sense…</p>

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<p>Unfortuanately, some people can get their little tipsy going with a jug of cheap California, and then get into the car.</p>

<p>Many, many, many people drink to get drunk, to escape problems, etc, and aren’t wining and fine dining.</p>

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<p>Unfortunately, your statement ignores the JAMA study, AM. I don’t really understand your point.
Mini has given us alcoholism stats, and I provided a link about marijuana addiction and marijuana as a gateway drug. We all understand the dangers of binge drinking, or any kind of drinking which impairs one’s faculties. So now we have some facts about both pot and alcohol.</p>

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<p>Enjoying a glass of good wine with a meal is something which my H and I do a couple of times a week. It’s enjoyable, and it tastes good. It’s as simple as that, that’s the purpose. Having a glass of two of wine with a meal doesn’t “transport one’s brain, emotional stability, or reasoning capacity elsewhere”. The benefits of red wine have been studied and written about for several years. There was another one conducted by a Harvard scientist, possibly the one to which sax has referred, which was reported this week. </p>

<p>lts, perhaps you don’t enjoy the taste of alcoholic drinks but many people do. To not associate with people who are even just social drinkers must severely limit your relationships. Offhand, I can only think of two adults I know who never drink.</p>

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<p>I am not denying that people can become addicted to marijuana. It is your claim that somehow alcohol is a preferable addiction (because there are ample studies of its addictive effects). </p>

<p>The mulitude of horrific auto accidents alone, due to alcohol, should be a wakeup call.</p>

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<p>Oh please. I NEVER said alcohol is a “preferable addiction.” How could any reasonable person even think that any addiction is “preferable.”</p>

<p>Gotta get back to work. :eek:</p>