<p>If you say she is “attractive,” does that not mean you are attracted to her? Isn’t that why we never use the word “attractive” regarding little kids? Isn’t that why people say “The 12 year old girl across the street is very pretty” instead of “the 12 year old girl across the street is very attractive”? </p>
<p>Words like “pretty” or “fashionable” seem to refer to the person or object him-/her-/itself; whereas words like “attractive” and “sexy” seem to be statements about your reaction to the person or thing. Is it a coherent sentence to say “I think x is attractive, but I am not attracted to x”? </p>
<p>Or to use busdriver’s refreshingly frank slant on this (from post #73), this is not a coherent sentence (for a man, at least): “X is very sexy, but under no circumstances would I ever hit X.”</p>
<p>I don’t know how many hairs you’ve split in your day, PG, but compared to “Which is better, Princeton or Yale?” this thread is like parting the Red Sea. Oops, I think I just cued TheD** to post an indignant comment about me claiming the Harry Potter books are as nuanced as the Old Testament.</p>
<p>I posted the original question and I was only wondering where Emma might go to school next year! I was thinking maybe a UK college but YIKES we kind of strayed a little!!</p>
<p>I wonder which posts in the past have STRAYED THE FURTHEST from the original point?
That would be interesting to hear!</p>
<p>If the Brown’s were making fun of EW, then I’d encourage her to move on. She’s had a world of experience that most of the Brownies will never understand. </p>
<p>She’s not too young and she’s smart for a certain kid I know.</p>
<p>What hetero woman can comment on is the life long experience that it is difficult, and perhaps impossible for some, to create a look androgynous enough that most men aren’t still attracted. </p>
<p>Enough men will still “want” us no matter how we cut our hair. Usually more than enough. Not a problem.</p>
<p>There are 2 kinds of guys in the world, the kind that are smart enough to tell women what they want to hear, and the kind that say what’s really on their minds. </p>
<p>I’ve been in lots of male-only situations (a decade in the military, high school and college sports teams, etc.). You can choose to think I’m an idiot or a ■■■■■ if you want, but I will swear on a stack of Bibles that I recall ONE guy who liked women with short hair better than with longer hair. I don’t recall even one guy who preferred women to have multiple ear piercings or extravagant fingernails. I don’t remember any white guys who were into the big-butt look. I don’t remember anybody who was attracted to powerful perfume. I don’t recall anybody thinking a woman was enhanced by having a lot of tattoos or body piercings.</p>
<p>If a guy wants to come on here and say he knows plenty of guys who drool over short-haired women with big butts and a dozen ear piercings, fine. I can’t say he’s a liar. But be aware that there are plenty of men who curry favor with women by telling them they really like things just because they know it doesn’t pay to argue, rather than that’s what they really like.</p>
<p>(I only mentioned the all-male situations because in those cases men were free to voice their opinions without worrying about female backlash.)</p>
<p>Men, too, seem to be spend a lot of time trying to be things the opposite sex doesn’t really want…for every guy chasing a bodybuilder’s physique, there are probably 100 females with a Johnny Depp photo on their bulletin boards.</p>
<p>Ok, so it would seem that both men and women spend a lot of time and effort trying to look ways that end up not being especially attractive to each other. Some women here claim that many women dress for other women, not for men. Given that so many things they do are counter to what many many (dare I say most?) men prefer, this has a loud ring of truth to it. </p>
<p>Amid all this what-does-the-other-sex-like confusion, I’m still looking to hear why women would claim to be able to tell one man or men in general what they (the men) should or do find attractive/sexy (as some women here seemed to be doing re EW’s new boyish haircut). There seemed to be a tone of “what do you men know about what is sexy?” Like I said, they might be perfectly right in saying, “what do you knuckle dragging, no-deoderant men know about being fashionable?” But telling men what they should find attractive or sexy is a whole 'nother thing.</p>
<p>That there are short-haired women getting attention does not prove that the men prefer women in general or those women in particular to have boyish haircuts.</p>
<p>Schmaltz…how do you account for the thousands of men who fall in love with women who have short hair? or big butts? or tattoos? SOME men are attracted obviously to those attributes! Why, some even are attracted to flat chested women! Or women who don’t shave. They don’t feel like they are “settling.” They truly are attracted to women of certain types. Not all men like the same thing!</p>
<p>Of course this has nothing to do with what college Emma Watson may transfer to!! :p</p>
<p>As far as the topic of women dressing for other women and how you say that often is not what men prefer…</p>
<p>I will tell you this…my husband could care LESS about clothing…he doesn’t notice, doesn’t care…is not into spending much money on it, etc. I dress in what I like for my own self. And typically, I might expect women to notice. My husband rarely does as clothing is very very unimportant to him.</p>
<p>Back to Emma Watson…I have NO doubt that there are some young men who find her current look attractive (and some who don’t). I doubt she needs to worry about men not being attracted to her!</p>
<p>“how do you account for the thousands of men who fall in love with women who have short hair? or big butts? or tattoos? SOME men are attracted obviously to those attributes! Why, some even are attracted to flat chested women! Or women who don’t shave. They don’t feel like they are “settling.” They truly are attracted to women of certain types. Not all men like the same thing!”</p>
<p>"I doubt she needs to worry about men not being attracted to her! "</p>
<p>Thousands of men are attracted to inflatable dolls, too. That doesn’t mean they PREFER women who smell like plastic. </p>
<p>Nobody is saying all men are the same…it could be that I met the only guys in the world who prefer long hair and non-huge butts. If you want to think my conclusions are not those of the majority, be my guest, but the lack of hairy, flat-chested, buzz-cut sex symbols might need explaining. Anyway, I will be happy if I get even one woman here to think twice before she scolds a man for daring to think for himself and for not bowing to her view of what’s sexy or attractive in a woman.</p>
<p>I like my H better with shorter hair- he likes it in a ponytail.
He still looks like Nick Nolte when he was younger ( although he looks awfully good for 70) & I think he is pretty hot.
I told him years ago that I was going to cut my hair off if he didn’t let me cut his ponytail - he said " go ahead".
So I did.
He likes my hair longer, I like his shorter- but ultimately the choice resides with the person whose head it is on.
It is just hair.
Do you really base " attractiveness" on a hairstyle?
In my world, it is much more complex than that. Thank goodness:)</p>
<p>But Schmaltz, I was NOT talking about MY view (as a woman) of what is attractive in a woman! I get what YOU (and some other men) find attractive in women. I’m saying there are OTHER men who find DIFFERENT attributes than you mention, to be very attractive to them. I didn’t say you should like short haired women, flat chested women, big butts, tattoos, unshaven, or whatever. But there are men who go for certain looks, including some attributes I just mentioned, and find these very attractive. </p>
<p>[insert personal example…I don’t think my husband is into women who are made up with make up but I notice some men who love that kind of made up look or a woman who is super stylish…not his thing]</p>
<p>And the same goes for what women find attractive in men. All women would NOT agree! You talked about men who build up big muscles to look sexy for women and how some women prefer the look of Johnny Depp. The thing is, some women really do love that muscular look in men and SOME women do not. Some women are attracted to bald men and some women like men with beards. </p>
<p>I’m not saying that as a woman, I should purport to know what you as a man likes in a woman’s physical attributes, but rather I truly believe that each man (or each woman) finds certain traits attractive and it is not a universal thing at all.</p>
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