<p>teriwtt: Certainly that’s true too. The problem comes when school/colleges some time express unwillingness for genuine medical needs but allow exception based on superstitions.</p>
<p>and where do we draw the line that we are now just feeding a ■■■■■?</p>
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<p>I doubt it was a driver’s license picture, because they don’t drive. It was likely a government-issued ID, which just about every adult in our world today needs to carry for identification. I don’t care whether she shows her face or not in a picture, if she can see properly to drive.</p>
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<p>terwtt answered this already so well that no need to add to it.</p>
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<p>Part of me is laughing first at the ignorance of your mention of FRIDAYS for Jews. The Sabbath day for Jews is SATURDAY. Please EDUCATE yourself. Anyway, an Orthodox Jew will not work on Saturdays and so can’t take a job that requires it. </p>
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<p>First, your use of “superstitions” in this context is mind boggling. </p>
<p>I certainly expect respect in a school setting for one’s religious beliefs. Ya know, already, the schools close on certain CHRISTIAN holidays and not necessarily on Jewish (or other religions)’ holidays. School is not open on Christmas but our schools are open on Rosh Hashanah and every other major Jewish holiday. Our school held parent conferences on Passover (seems insensitive to me but we will live). But since my kids have to sing XMas songs at school (that is not a superstition either), maybe others can have to “bend” to accommodate their religion too. And believe it or not, even those who have certain religious customs such as the Sabbath for Jews, are accommodated such as for the SATs. As it should be. Is that a superstition??? If you are Christian, would you think it was OK if the SATs were on Easter? Is a Muslim girl wearing a head covering a superstition? Not in my view. It is part of following that religion’s customs. Such a student should not be forced to remove it at school.</p>
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<p>I think you are not aware of a country called France on this earth.</p>
<p>A superstition is just a superstition because it has no reasoning behind it. Whether it comes from a religious or cultural believes it doesn’t matter.</p>
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<p>Well then, I guess schools can just start scheduling classes, exams, programs, etc. on Sundays, too, because all those people whose faith says they must attend church on Sundays should no longer be excused. </p>
<p>POIH - do you not realize that all across this country, campuses (and school districts) schedule holidays around religious observances? Many public schools in our area schedule days off around Jewish holidays because if they didn’t, 3/4 of their students wouldn’t show up.</p>
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<p>People will then go to church on Tuesday or whatever day is the holiday.
Why it has to be Sunday? Does God only comes on Sunday?</p>
<p>POIH…what is your religion? It has certain laws, customs, beliefs, rituals, traditions, etc., right? Should we characterize these as superstitions?</p>
<p>How would you feel if a school FORCED your daughter to go against her religious beliefs?</p>
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<p>No, I thought they have holidays according to there semesters. Most holiday’s are fixed to be Monday or Friday except 4th of July and 25th of December.</p>
<p>POIH, I’m culturally Jewish and religiously atheist. I don’t know anyone who has a problem with at, because I’m not an a-hole. You need not be one either.</p>
<p>cross-posted with soozie</p>
<p>Obviously the Chicago area demographics are quite different than Vermont and we have a very healthy Jewish population, including many who identify as orthodox. In fact, at Muhlenberg College (affiliated with the Lutheran church), their Jewish student population hovers around 30%, so they do observe Jewish high holy days. (I want to say the same was true when D1 was at Syracuse University). But some of our north shore suburbs are so heavily Jewish that literally, they cannot hold school on the holy days as most of the kids would be absent.</p>
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<p>You’ve got it wrong. If you’re going to make arguments, how about getting your facts straight?</p>
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<p>Students are allowed to bring rabbits feet to exams, as far as I know.</p>
<p>As far as religion, being accomodating to religious observance is something that colleges pride themselves on. Especially highly selective colleges, of the type that you most admire. It’s a well-known feature, not a bug. </p>
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<p>Yes, some do. The food pantry where I volunteer does indeed ask (among many other questions) if people are vegetarians, vegans, or keep kosher or observe halal.</p>
<p>I think you’d be well served by taking a course on world religions.</p>
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<p>All religion have custom and those are superstitions because they don’t have reason behind it.</p>
<p>We’ve never taught our daughter any religion because children should not be taught religion because they can’t differentiate between custom and superstitions.</p>
<p>If some one choose to follow certain custom in their adult life then that be it. Most religious fanatism in the world come from people who have been repeatedly brain washed in their childhood and have not given a chance for an open education.</p>
<p>But it seems getting an open education is also not a solution.</p>
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<p>Well, by your standards, the whole Roman Catholic faith would be SOOL. Their faith demands that they attend mass every Sunday, in addition to a few other holy days that are sprinkled throughout the year on weekdays.</p>
<p>teri…where I grew up, there was a sizable Jewish population and schools were closed on Rosh Hashanah, Yom Kippur, and Passover. Not so here in my area of Vermont but my kids are in the minority and I am fine with it. I would expect, if my kids had chosen to (but they did not) be absent on those days, that they would have been accommodated. </p>
<p>POIH…do you think schools should be closed on XMas day? That is a religious holiday that not all religions observe. Just wondering your take on that.</p>
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<p>Here is the story.</p>
<p>[Muslim</a> Woman Sues Over Driver’s License Photo - Orlando News Story - WKMG Orlando](<a href=“http://www.clickorlando.com/news/1214015/detail.html]Muslim”>http://www.clickorlando.com/news/1214015/detail.html)</p>
<p>POIH, I respect if you have chosen to not teach any religion to your child. Hopefully, you can respect that others choose to follow particular and various religions that you don’t agree with. I don’t agree with the beliefs of many religions but respect those who are of those faiths. </p>
<p>Are you and your wife, who are adults, of a certain religion that you follow? If so, which one? (unless you simply want to say yes, but not mention which one)</p>
<p>Even if you follow NO religion, that’s cool and I respect it. But demonstrating intolerance of those who believe differently comes across as NOT liberal thinking and as uneducated.</p>
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<p>You mean to say birth day of Sir Isaac Newton. Sure why not as it’s a fact not a superstition.</p>
<p>Sir Isaac Newton PRS (4 January 1643 – 31 March 1727 [OS: 25 December 1642 – 20 March 1727])</p>
<p>Soozie…POIH is definately not Christian. Christians know that Jesus started his life as Jewish and I suspect POIH considers Jesus a superstitition as well. </p>
<p>POIH…You managed to do something that not even I have done…you POed everyone. You should have realized early on that religion is a topic that should not be criticized. If you were better educated in the humanities you would have known that. The beautiful world that we live in is comprised of a vast array of people and the basic principle of getting along with people is respecting them. If you ignore this basic principle than you are also disrespecting the principals that we have fought for in this country…freedom of religion which includes practicing in anyway that does not harm another person. This young lady was only doing what was right, and for that she is to be commended. The laws and practices of orthodox Judaism are not easy to practice in many communities because of people who do not understand or care to understand it. That is ignorance!</p>
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I just read the above post from POIH and as I suspected he does not practice any religion. In fact you just bashed the Christian religion but I suspect you are unaware of that. I think I am done with this thread…POIH take a class on religion and get your head into some good books that will have you completely confused. The world is made up of more than math, science and technology…live a little.</p>
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<p>But some school districts have single holidays (some that soozie mentioned above) scattered throughout the year. Almost every school district has off the Friday before Easter because it’s not only Good Friday, but also coincides with Passover. Some schools are able to schedule fall breaks around the time of Yom Kippur. </p>
<p>What good would it do a school to hold classes on days when a good majority of students would not be present?</p>