Three daughters and rest assured none will go to Baylor. Oldest is at a Pac-12 school right now and she understands you can never be 100% safe from issues, but that steering clear of scholarship athletes is a great first step towards safety.
Agreed. For all of my life I have marveled that people think Waco is a great town. It’s a crummy shopping strip mall town. I’ve witnessed crack deals going down less than a mile around campus.
But Waco has Chip and Joanna and they will take a shack and make it a palace for you!
Don’t all kids need to write essays for college? Isn’t that a way for colleges to get a sense of a person’s character and values? Are these athletes/animals exempt from writing these essays? Who writes their recs? They need to be screened better, imo.
GoNoles85, If the school doesn’t fire her, they are allowing her to represent the school. If a professor wouldn’t get away with saying something like that, why should a coach.
@citymama9 Colleges are willing to overlook a lot if you can play football.
We do not have or need mob justice just so some people can get their warped sense of revenge. The BB coach didn’t break any laws. She didn’t punch anyone in the face. She has a right to free speech and she exercised that right and you and I, or maybe just you, can take offense to what she said if you want. I am not a daisy. I’ve got an idea. It’s a crazy idea. Why not just punish the people who did the rapes or covered it up? Nawwwwww, that would be too hard.
By the way, even if you did round everyone up and “punish” them there would still be bad things in this world.
I didn’t even bother to comment on whomever said this happens at all D1 football playing schools because that comment is patently absurd.
That would require regular doses of testosterone. You can’t teach someone out of their biology.
No, I would not send a D to Baylor. I wouldn’t have sent one there back when it looked like they were covering up only a few football player rapes, but 50?
Not just daughters!!
I wouldn’t let my daughter or son attend the list from above–
Baylor
Dartmouth (or other colleges with overwrought Greek life)
Penn State.
Would you want your son exposed to that kind of thinking?
@30,
What island will he be living on? Bad people are over the place.
Please explain the hostess programs. My daughter wanted to apply, but changed her mind.
The co-eds at the colleges greet the jocks while they are being recruited. It sounds pretty bad and it is not something I think should happen but, in all honesty, the jocks usually don’t need much help finding willing partners and guys and girls are going to mix one way or the other. It doesn’t have to be promoted by the schools and believe me I agree. If I had a D, I would NOT want her to do that but I suspect she would have enough respect for herself not to be used, and used is the right word, in that way anyway.
“willing partners” is not the same as rape. We aren’t talking about jocks socializing with girls- we are talking about a violent sexual assault.
Just want to clarify GoNoles comments. A young woman “greeting” an athlete (god knows what that means) does not mean that this same woman is agreeing to be sexually assaulted (i.e. “she asked for it by being a hostess”).
Thank you for explaining about the hostess program. I agree that it is a disgusting use of women.
My dd is very excited about joining a sorority, and wants to go to D1 football school for the parties. She is well versed in protecting herself and what situations to avoid, but I still worry.
“willing partners” is not the same as rape. We aren’t talking about jocks socializing with girls- we are talking about a violent sexual assault.
–Seriously?
–Isn’t it obvious that willing partners is not the same thing as rape?
–I thought we were talking about if a parent would let their child go to B?
–One can condemn the whole school and/or community to try to run away from the bad things in life they don’t want to think about but bad things and bad people are all around you.
–I think being a hostess is demeaning but I don’t think all hostesses have sex with the jocks so I don’t lose sleep over it.
@GoNoles85 I don’t think she should be punished. Perhaps she should be forced to take some PR lessons. My views on what the punishment should be have been this way for months.
- We shouldn't treat the allegations in the complaint as facts.
- Relatively few college rapes are of the jump out of the bushes variety. They usually start with women voluntarily going to some young man's apartment. If there's a culture problem with just the football team, maybe avoid those people. Baylor has over 14000 undergrads, so the football team is a tiny slice of that.
@roethlisburger The irony in your username and who it pays homage to cannot be missed.
That aside, one of the people raped was a student athletic trainer. In exchange for her silence, she was given full tuition. Hard to hide that paper trail. In addition, it doesn’t matter whether they went to their apartments or not. You do NOT have license to rape a woman. I have ZERO tolerance for your victim blaming. To suggest women should’ve known better than to put themselves in a position to be raped is beyond reprehensible.
Yes, these are just allegations. But where there is smoke, there is fire. Considering over the past few years, 2 Baylor players have been sentenced to prison for rape, and additional player has been charged, just this week, another player has had a restraining order placed against him… this is a pattern.
Should the entire university be punished? No. That’s why the punishment I suggested directly punished the football players and administrators that condoned this heinous behavior.